I guess you could say that having a lot of class sometimes gets in the way.

God Bless President George H. W. Bush!

Being classless myself I would be willing to ask the peanut farmer that question. I think the answer would be a DU worthy tirade given the peanut farmers rapidly deteriorating grasp on reality.

It is a shame that Bush 41 did dare to break his 'Read my Lips' pledge.

He might have had a second term instead of an early retirement.

I'd ask Moore how he felt sitting next to that anti-American slimeball Jimmy Carter.

I'd like to ask him how it feels to put Islam in charge in Iran??

Bush 41 was and is an honorable and good man. He was done in by a hostile MSM (they called him a wimp despite the fact that he was the youngest commissioned naval aviator in WWII, was shot down in combat, and plucked from the ocean by a sub), and a strong third-party candidate in Perot. I believe Clintoon only won 42% of the vote. They - the MSM - wouldn't get away with it today: painting a geniune war hero as a 'wimp' as opposed by a genuine dope-smoking draft dodger! It was the last gasp of the MSM!

Carter and Moore= Peanut and butter ball.

"It is a shame that Bush 41 did dare to break his 'Read my Lips' pledge.

He might have had a second term instead of an early retirement."

You're probably right. I count three major blunders in his term: Read my lips, the ADA, and David Souter.

I'd ask Moore how he felt sitting next to that anti-American slimeball Jimmy Carter.

Well said!

Man how I would LOVE to have the audio on this...
Sharper Minds Daily

"It is a shame that Bush 41 did dare to break his 'Read my Lips' pledge."

Klintoon had help. Name of Perot. And there was NO meaningful news source to oppose the MSM then. They could say and get away with anything they wanted.

I'd ask Moore how he felt sitting next to that anti-American slimeball Jimmy Carter.

Birds of a feather - Two peas in a pod - six of one, half dozen of the other.

Pres Bush senior has class, something that Moore and Carter know nothing about.

Michael Moore is one of the best things that has ever happened to the Republican party. Thanks, Mikeeee.

He was done in by breaking his Read My Lips pledge.

Even I voted for him without enthusiasum.

Re-election is the best revenge.

Well, I guess he is kinda round, like a ball perhaps.

You forgot the "Clean Air Act".

All the country's plating shops went to Mexico.

It is a shame that Bush 41 did dare to break his 'Read my Lips' pledge

The MSM loved to repeat that comment about Bush 41. What they intentionally omitted and what even a large number of Republicans forget is that he had no choice. He agreed to a tax increase under the threat of a much larger increase if he vetoed the plan put forward for his signature. So, yes, he broke his promise, but in doing so, he saved a much higher tax increase.

OMG To have personally heard BHWB biatchslap Carter over Mikey moore.

legendary

What they intentionally omitted and what even a large number of Republicans forget is that he had no choice

This is nonsense. Dan Quayle revealed in his auto-biography that behind the scenes Bush's own people, (after he made the pledge, but before he was even inaugurated), were already making plans to do away with that pledge.

Klintoon had help. Name of Perot.

If Perot hadnt run, about 60 percent of his supporters would have voted for Clinton. Clinton still would have won. So Perot had nothing to do with Bush's loss. Perot did prevent Clinton from winning by a larger margin.

This post made my day! :-)

It was fate. Otherwise, we wouldn't have had 43, twice!

I sometimes wonder how the Bush family survived in Washington for all those years, but yet were so driven to "do what's right". I still don't know the answer, but I'm thankful that all of them have been there, especially GWB.

I think it took backing off and stepping away from Washington D.C. for daddy Bush to realize how "had" he'd been with the snakes in congress during his presidency. Thankfully, GWB has benefitted from his father's mistakes and will not fall into the political traps the left loves to use on their opponents.

If Perot hadnt run, about 60 percent of his supporters would have voted for Clinton. Clinton still would have won. So Perot had nothing to do with Bush's loss. Perot did prevent Clinton from winning by a larger margin.

Bill Clinton himself doesn't even say that.

James Carville and Dick Morris both concede that most of Perot's voters probably would have voted for Bush and both concede (and still do) that Perot helped Clinton take the presidency.

Some of the dem strategists brought this up only a couple of weeks ago in talking about a forward vision for the party.

And what was his library doing giving an award to Ted Kennedy for all his wonderful "public service"?

I wanted to get up my nerve to ask Jimmy Carter at the Clinton thing [the opening of Bill Clinton’s library], “How did it feel being there with that marvelous friend of yours, Michael Moore?” and I didn’t dare do it.

Didn't do it...wouldn't be prudent.

Bill Clinton himself doesn't even say that.

Because Bill Clinton doesnt even know that.

James Carville and Dick Morris both concede that most of Perot's voters probably would have voted for Bush and both concede (and still do) that Perot helped Clinton take the presidency.

According to the polls at the time (1992), 60 percent of Perot voters would have voted for Clinton if Perot wasnt in hte running. I do not know where Morris and Carville gets their info.

"In 1992, Perot actually drew more of his support from potential Clinton voters than he did from potential Bush voters."

"From Perot voters and potential Perot voters preferring Clinton over Bush by roughly a 60-40 margin in 1992"

http://www.mydd.com/story/2004/12/13/2114/9617

Chances are Perot helped Clinton win but not near enough to offset the 370 to 168 Electoral College vote that Clinton won by.... The following site does a fairly good analysis on a state by state basis.....

Plurality Wins in the 1992 Presidential Race: Perot's Contribution to Clinton's Victory

Your source is mydd ?

The best I can do for now. Kinda hard finding 1992 data.

IMO, you can now stick Chevy Chase in that trashy category with the fat guy.

http://www.issues2000.org/Celeb/George_Bush_Sr__Tax_Reform.htm

George Bush Sr. on Tax Reform



Abandoned “Read my lips: No new taxes” pledge
In June 1990 Bush abandoned his “Read my lips. No new taxes” campaign pledge and acknowledged that new or increased taxes were necessary. Many Republican conservatives were critical of this shift, and his popularity ratings fell immediately. A compromise deficit-reduction plan was killed by the House, with many Republicans in opposition. As a result, the government was almost forced to shut down for lack of money while a new budget proposal was drafted.
Source: Grolier Encyclopedia on-line, “The Presidency” Dec 25, 2000

Demanded capital gains tax reduction; yielded to Congress
The president and Congress reached a compromise on a budget package that increased the marginal tax rate and phased out exemptions for high-income taxpayers. Despite his repeated demands for a reduction in the capital gains tax, Bush had to surrender on this issue as well. His popularity among Republicans never fully recovered, and the compromise plan reduced the size of the deficit only marginally, despite Bush’s claim that it was the toughest deficit reduction package ever approved.

Michael Moore’s got to be the worst for me. I mean, he’s such a slimeball and so atrocious. But I love the fact now that the Democrats are not embracing him as theirs anymore. He might not get invited to sit in Jimmy Carter’s box [at the Democratic Convention] again. I wanted to get up my nerve to ask Jimmy Carter at the Clinton thing [the opening of Bill Clinton’s library], “How did it feel being there with that marvelous friend of yours, Michael Moore?” and I didn’t dare do it.

I nominate this as the greatest quote of our lifetime! Thank you, George H.W.!!!!!!!

I'd ask Moore how he felt sitting next to that anti-American slimeball Jimmy Carter.

He'd probably say he was in company of his peers! Moores as anti-American as they come!

Lonesome ... I think you are correct, but you also missed something else VERY important.

We had troops in the field (Desert Shield), and the scum Democrats in Congress were holding up appropriations for military funding.

The Dem's stated that a careful budget HAD to be negotiated before they would fund the military .... and that Bush HAD to take away his no-new-taxes pledge as the first part of any negotiations.

ONLY thing that I was upset with Bush ... is that he should have done what Reagan would have done ... gone to the public and pointed out that the Dem's were holding the military at risk by holding back funding. This would be risky, because the MSM would spin it against Bush. So Bush agreed to enter negotiations and he rescinded his pledge .... then the next 2+ years the Dem's hollered about how Bush lied (without pointing out that they practically broke his arm and threatened to de-fund the troops in the field to do it.)

Needless to say, Bush41 is a class act; he would not abandon troops in the field, and he folded rather than try a fight that might have caused problems for the military.

Mike

Read Quayle's book. The no new taxes pledge was abandoned before he even took office. They had no intention of keeping that pledge right from the beginning.

In June 1990 Bush abandoned his “Read my lips. No new taxes” campaign pledge and acknowledged that new or increased taxes were necessary

New or increased taxes are never necessary. He just didnt want to fight the Democrats in congress.

Lonesome ... I think you are correct, but you also missed something else VERY important.

We had troops in the field (Desert Shield), and the scum Democrats in Congress were holding up appropriations for military funding.

If memory serves me correctly, the budget activity preceeded Desert Shield and Desert Storm.

I really think Jimmy Carter is the next Robert Byrd, of the democrat party...

There were SUFFICIENT votes to OVERRIDE his veto. He had a choice, reach a setttlement of a tax increase or have a budget submitted to him by Congress that with an even higher tax increase, which following his veto, would have been overridden.

Regardless of charges of reneging on his pledge, had he NOT signed the tax increase, we would have had a much higher increase pushed on us by Congress, over his veto.

Perot favored a "FLAT-TAX" are you telling me that the socialist democrats of the 90's and of today were going to vote for PEROT over kommie klinton? Give me a break.

You are wrong. There was no reason not to vote for Clinton.

My son has a small business. At the time of the election it was hard. Especially after the tax increase. Most small businesses pay regular taxes on their business. He voted for Perot as did his wife and one son.[ they are sorry now and really though Bush would win] Most would, most likely, have voted for Bush because they were conservative, as Perot ran his campaign, which was a very conservative campaign but not doable.

Frannie

There were SUFFICIENT votes to OVERRIDE his veto. He had a choice, reach a setttlement of a tax increase or have a budget submitted to him by Congress that with an even higher tax increase, which following his veto, would have been overridden. Regardless of charges of reneging on his pledge, had he NOT signed the tax increase, we would have had a much higher increase pushed on us by Congress, over his veto.

They had no sufficient votes to override any veto. They would have needed a two thirds majority for that. Democrats did not have that, and they could not get enough Republican votes to go along. Had he vetoed the bill, the government would have shut down, and he didnt have the cajones to allow that to happen. So he had the choice of vetoing the bill, and allowing the government to shut down, or signing the bill. He just didnt want to fight the congress.

Perot favored a "FLAT-TAX" are you telling me that the socialist democrats of the 90's and of today were going to vote for PEROT over kommie klinton?

They prefered "anybody but Bush" (ABB).

Jimmy Carter is the most disgraceful US president of my lifetime. Jimmy sides with every country against America and still leftists love him.

Perhaps you have some sort of evidence for your statement

"In 1992, Perot actually drew more of his support from potential Clinton voters than he did from potential Bush voters." "From Perot voters and potential Perot voters preferring Clinton over Bush by roughly a 60-40 margin in 1992" http://www.mydd.com/story/2004/12/13/2114/9617

Common sense says Perot stole Bush voters. DemoRATS never saw a spending program they didn't like, Perot was talking about chopping government programs.