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To Vote Or Not To Vote - A tough call for conservatives.
National Review Online ^ | November 06, 2006 | John Derbyshire

Posted on 11/06/2006 12:30:43 PM PST by neverdem







To Vote Or Not To Vote
A tough call for conservatives.

By John Derbyshire

Of course, it is not a matter of simply “staying home.” I shall be voting not only for my U.S. senator and representative, but also for a state senator and assemblyman, a county clerk and comptroller, and a town councilcritter. You probably have a similar array of positions to vote for. By all means do the best you can for your state and district. Whether or not it is the case that all politics is local, it is certainly the case that all localities have politics, and you should participate. What I’m going to talk about here is strategies for voting federal offices.

And if you are a single-issue voter — immigration, right to life, environment — and there is a person standing for federal office in your district who is strong for your darling issue, of course you should vote for that person. You are going to anyway, and nothing I say will dissuade you.

Those cases aside, let’s face the issue of whether a principled conservative should do anything to prevent a massacre of congressional Republicans in these elections — by, for instance, voting Republican.

The case for not doing anything, for letting the massacre proceed, is straightforward. The Republican Congress has been complicit in George W. Bush’s plans to vastly expand the power of the federal government, to deconstruct our nation, and to beggar the generation that will come after us.

The concinnity of congressional Republican actions with administration goals has been total. As Ryan Sager says in his indispensable recent book: “[T]he number of crimes against conservatism committed by Republicans during the Bush administration is almost too many to list.” (Sager none the less goes on to list them. It takes him three pages.)

This is not, as someone always pipes up at this point, a vote on Bush. No, it isn’t, but it might as well be. George W. Bush has vetoed just one bill from the Congress his party controls, a bill on federal funding of embryonic-stem-cell research — a boutique issue of no importance to the life of the nation. For the rest, Republican president and Republican Congress have been two hearts beating as one. They have worked together to lead the nation in the direction they think it should go.

And that direction has been away from conservatism, whose very heart and essence is the understanding that individual liberty waxes when government wanes, and vice versa. This president, and the Congress that has supported and enabled him, does not have that understanding. For all George W. Bush’s vapid blather about a yearning for liberty having been planted in the hearts of men by our Creator, there is no hint of a trace of a sign that Bush has ever given five seconds’ thought to the connection between individual liberty and government power.

Even when this president has done good things, those things have not been part of any discernable conservative project. His tax cuts, for example, will have their entire effect washed away in a year or five by the rising waters of entitlement spending. Seen alone, which is how Bushites much prefer to see them, those tax cuts were a shining example of conservative principle; seen in combination with the unrestrained spending of this congress, approved by this president, they are a hoax, a swindle, a cynical fraud.

We cannot express our disgust with George W. Bush this election cycle, but we can use the Bushite congressional majority as a proxy. Away with them! Vote them out! In the name of God, go!

Except that… There are two issues that should stay our hands. The first of these issues is of course the War on Terror. The second is immigration.

If the thought of a massacre of congressional Republicans is pleasantly cheering, the thought of Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank, and Maxine Waters supervising the nation’s defenses is emphatically not. Neither is the thought of a gleefully grinning George W. Bush signing into law (as he undoubtedly would) the Clinton/Kennedy 2007 Open Borders, Universal Amnesty, and Abolition of Citizenship Act. If the cherishing of individual liberty and — what is really the same thing — the distrust of state power are together the beating heart of modern American conservatism, then strong national defense and patriotism are the liver and lungs.

There you have the dilemma for conservatives: to go on enabling the enablers of those “crimes committed against conservatism” — to join in pulling on the bell rope that tolls the death knell of the Reagan project — or, to place the national defense and the National Question in the hands of fools, buffoons, and America-haters, for a minimum of two years.

It’s a tough call. Those two big issues notwithstanding, there is still a case for handing congressional Republicans their entrails on a platter, garnished with parsley. The case is made at some length by, or at least is implicit in, the article “Goodbye to the permanent majority” in the Nov. 4 issue of The Economist. Most telling is the sidebar titled “Annual growth in federal spending per head under recent administrations,” with the growth numbers put under two sub-headings: “Unified government” (Johnson 4.6 percent, Bush Jr. 3.1 percent, Carter 2.9 percent) and “Divided government” (Nixon/Ford 1.9 percent, Reagan 1.7 percent, Bush Sr. 0.6 percent, Clinton 0.3 percent). From a straightforward size-of-government point of view, a spell of divided government — Republican president, Democratic congress — looks pretty appealing.

But of course, the national defense and the National Question are not notwithstanding (“are withstanding”?) for conservatives. Not ever, not at all. This is a really, really tough call.



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KEYWORDS: 2006; demoralization; derbyshire; election2006; elections; vote; votegop; votesuppression
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Hold your nose if you have to, but please don't help the dems. They are not a loyal opposition. Don't stay home. Vote.


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1 posted on 11/06/2006 12:30:44 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem


It has never been a tough call on whether to vote or not...this is just bunk...


2 posted on 11/06/2006 12:34:21 PM PST by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: neverdem

That is the dumbest title I have read today. To vote keeps the donk party out of power and to not vote may put them in,thus leading to roll back of tax cuts, hinder conservative judges from being appointed, put all of our lives in danger by enabling terrorists, etc. Anyone whom could even consider to not vote in this climate is an utter fool.


3 posted on 11/06/2006 12:34:40 PM PST by jrooney ( Hold your cards close.)
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To: neverdem

It's not a tough call. Every Republican should vote ...


4 posted on 11/06/2006 12:35:34 PM PST by GOPJ (The MSM is so busy kissing democrat butt they ignore turth. Come up for air guys.)
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To: neverdem
Republican president, Democratic congress — looks pretty appealing.

No, it does not.

5 posted on 11/06/2006 12:35:35 PM PST by Bahbah (Support the military and their mission, vote Republican.)
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To: neverdem
And that direction has been away from conservatism

Yeah, right. Two words: Roberts and Alito. We're inches away from saving the lives of millions of unborn babies. Now is not the time to play debating society games.

6 posted on 11/06/2006 12:36:05 PM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: neverdem

No, John, it's not. Really...it's not.


7 posted on 11/06/2006 12:36:24 PM PST by RichInOC (If you want a more conservative America, the solution is never going to be electing more Democrats.)
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To: neverdem; Kenny Bunk
The Republican Congress has been complicit in George W. Bush’s plans to vastly expand the power of the federal government, to deconstruct our nation, and to beggar the generation that will come after us.

True.

The concinnity of..

Concincinati? LOL. Big word.

8 posted on 11/06/2006 12:36:28 PM PST by Shermy
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To: neverdem

Stop whining and vote.

The Republicans are right on the WOT. Nothing else matters.

Nothing.


9 posted on 11/06/2006 12:36:28 PM PST by gridlock (The GOP will pick up at least TWO seats in the Senate and FOUR seats in the House in 2006)
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To: neverdem

When voting in the Congressional races (House/Senate) control OF the House/Senate is also being "voted" on.

If the Republican margin of victory is small, it is in danger of being lost in the courts or through backroom negotiations for more turncoat Republicans.

Problems with the Republican candidates need to be addressed during the Primaries.

The power of one congress critter is small. The cumulative effect of lost seats is more considerable.


10 posted on 11/06/2006 12:37:35 PM PST by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: neverdem

Vote. Who says there are no easy answers?


11 posted on 11/06/2006 12:38:20 PM PST by kevkrom (John F'n Kerry's 'apology': "I'm sorry you were too stupid to realize I wasn't calling you stupid.")
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To: All

“I hope that someday your children and grandchildren will tell of the time that a certain president came to town at the end of a long journey and asked their parents and grandparents to join him in setting America on the course to the new millennium—and that a century of peace, prosperity, opportunity, and hope followed. So, if I could ask you just one last time: Tomorrow, when mountains greet the dawn, would you go out there and win one for the Gipper?” —Ronald Reagan, November 7, 1988


12 posted on 11/06/2006 12:38:29 PM PST by Jeffrey_D.
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To: neverdem

It's not a tough call at all. Allowing the democrats to take over Congress and flee Iraq dishonors every soldier who has served and/or died in the service of their country not to mention put all Americans at risk.


13 posted on 11/06/2006 12:39:00 PM PST by Apercu ("A man's character is his fate" - Heraclitus)
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To: neverdem

Its not a tough call. If you don't have anyone to vote FOR, you definitely have someone to vote AGAINST!


14 posted on 11/06/2006 12:39:07 PM PST by Little Ray
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To: Aquinasfan

"We're inches away from saving the lives of millions of unborn babies."

No, we're inches away from overturning the Roe case which will throw the issue into Congress. Since most people support some abortion rights abortion will be legislated instead of imposed by judicial fiat.


15 posted on 11/06/2006 12:39:07 PM PST by Shermy
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To: neverdem
Do I get mad at the Pubbies on some of the RINO-esque things they do?

Yes

Am I ever so frustrated to let the DIMs win by not voting "R" ?

Never.

16 posted on 11/06/2006 12:39:42 PM PST by llevrok (How can you plant the seed of freedom by pulling out early?)
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To: neverdem

To read or not to read, that is the question. No, it's not hard. Derbyshire -- no read.


17 posted on 11/06/2006 12:40:40 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Aquinasfan
Ultimately we are going to need a Constitutional amendment to guaranty protection for life for ALL (end "assisted" suicide, Mr. Schivo's "word" should never have been proof of contract and he clearly did not have his wife's best interests at heart, her family did but was denied parental rights). Cloning and genetic cannibalism (harvesting fetuses) must be addressed.

This is not a "states rights" issue and it clearly would not be with a Constitutional amendment.
18 posted on 11/06/2006 12:40:45 PM PST by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: neverdem

Nothing tough about it. If you don't vote Republican, you're a fool.


19 posted on 11/06/2006 12:40:52 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: neverdem
John D, it's not a tough call at all. There simply is no alternative. VOTE!!!!
20 posted on 11/06/2006 12:42:48 PM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: Give therapeutic violence a chance!)
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To: neverdem

Derbyshire is wrong. Orson Scott Card has it right. Here is the proof: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1733448/posts

Conservatives are fools for even THINKING of not voting this (and every) election!


21 posted on 11/06/2006 12:43:16 PM PST by RebelBanker (It is, however somewhat fuzzier on the subject of kneecaps.)
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To: neverdem

VOTE! to not VOTE is STUPID!


22 posted on 11/06/2006 12:43:56 PM PST by JFC
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To: neverdem

It's not tough at all, even from a conservative perspective. Conservatives have had and will continue to have influence on the Republican Party in power. They will have no influence on Democrats. And the Leninist strategy of "the worse, the better" is risky and may not work, and you'll be saddled with Democrats for years. Believe me, you don't want generations of Dems as the majority party -- just look at my state, Massachusetts.


23 posted on 11/06/2006 12:44:14 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: neverdem
To Vote Or Not To Vote - A tough call for conservatives.

This is a steaming pantsload. The author must have a really weird, self-serving definition of "conservative."
24 posted on 11/06/2006 12:44:22 PM PST by aruanan
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To: neverdem; jmaroneps37
Remember:

9/11 was never repeated--thanks to the expert and ATTENTIVE leadership of President George Bush.

And note tagline!

25 posted on 11/06/2006 12:44:38 PM PST by Savage Beast ("We can either fight the Democrats at the polls or...fight terrorists in our streets." ~jmaroneps37)
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To: neverdem

Not a tough call for me. I'll vote the straight Republican ticket and be glad to do it. The opposition offers nothing. The 'Rats are the party of nihilism, the party of death, the party of defeat. Why anyone would waste their vote either voting for a 'Rat or not voting against the 'Rats is a mystery to me.


26 posted on 11/06/2006 12:45:10 PM PST by chimera
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To: GOPJ

"It's not a tough call. Every Republican should vote." Read the post-it is aimed at conservatives, not Republicans.


27 posted on 11/06/2006 12:45:34 PM PST by diogenes ghost
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To: neverdem

It's not a tough call at all; Derb is bigtime wrong about that.


28 posted on 11/06/2006 12:45:44 PM PST by DesScorp
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To: aruanan
This is a steaming pantsload. The author must have a really weird, self-serving definition of "conservative."

The author's simply trying to get Republicans to abstain from voting.

29 posted on 11/06/2006 12:46:44 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: neverdem

John Derbyshire is really going down the drain...Voting is not a hard choice for conservatives.


30 posted on 11/06/2006 12:47:12 PM PST by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: Shermy
If your post didn't energize the Republican base, nothing will. This guy just doesn't have concinitty that I am looking for. Although I am suspicious that Teresa Heinz may have paid for it.

Real tough call. You really hanker for another Lib Clymer on SCOTUS, Conyers on Armed Forces, Barbra Streisand singing at the White House the way she hummed for Bill Clinton?

Tough call? Barney The Bugger of Bayonne and the Gun Grabbers in charge of defense? Pelosi as Shrieker of the House? How nuts is this writer?

I'll be sending a Get-Well card to Fidel before I skip this one.

31 posted on 11/06/2006 12:48:29 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (Vote for your life, and the life and prosperity of this country.)
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To: neverdem
George W. Bush has vetoed just one bill from the Congress his party controls, a bill on federal funding of embryonic-stem-cell research -- a boutique issue of no importance to the life of the nation.

It is official. Derbyshire has become a jackass.

32 posted on 11/06/2006 12:49:00 PM PST by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: diogenes ghost

"Read the post-it is aimed at conservatives, not Republicans."
Exactly: "The case for not doing anything, for letting the massacre proceed, is straightforward. The Republican Congress has been complicit in George W. Bush’s plans to vastly expand the power of the federal government, to deconstruct our nation, and to beggar the generation that will come after us."

So what's in it for me, a `grass-roots, independent conservative', you ask?
Jury duty.


33 posted on 11/06/2006 12:49:03 PM PST by tumblindice (That McCartney woman: who's she stumping for now?)
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To: jrooney

Totally agreed. To stay home is simply unthinkable.

While Bush is far from the ideal conservative for the reasons the article listed, he did make excellent appointments to the SCOTUS in my opinion, and he is by far the strongest on the WOT.


34 posted on 11/06/2006 12:49:22 PM PST by dashing doofus
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To: ozzymandus

"If you don't vote Republican, you're a fool."


I'd step them down to the IDIOT level.
Fool is too bland.


35 posted on 11/06/2006 12:49:27 PM PST by Grendel9
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To: neverdem
Add this photo to your list:


36 posted on 11/06/2006 12:49:53 PM PST by gridlock (The GOP will pick up at least TWO seats in the Senate and FOUR seats in the House in 2006)
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To: neverdem
That conservatives would even give a second thought to not voting means they are no patriots.

JMO but that's what it seems like to me. Our troops deserve better, much better.

If I were to ever learn that a conservative running in my state did not vote in this election, I would never ever support that candidate. Not even for dog catcher.

37 posted on 11/06/2006 12:50:25 PM PST by OldFriend (Vote For the Sake of All the People in the World Who Never Get to Vote)
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To: neverdem

Don't vote - and that is one less vote the Dem'crats have to come up with to neutralize your point of view.

Sure, the Republican you are limited to supporting may be a less than optimum candidate for the job. But here's the difference - if you take up pen in hand (or dash off an e-mail), and direct a strongly worded missive, taking issue with some stand, to the Republican concerning whatever you find disagreeable, at least you will get some kind of answer that remains somewhat on topic. And just maybe, a little action.

But if you're represented by a Dem'crat, either there will be no reply directed to your concerns, or the issue will be turned around some way to fit the agenda the Dem'crats have chosen to adopt, and you will only be disappointed and perhaps angered by their response, or worst case of all, the local bureaucracy suddenly is very interested in how well you keep the grass from growing in the cracks of your sidewalk, or there is a serious question about the assessment of local, state, or even Federal taxes, or old warrants made out against someone with a name similar to yours is suddenly discovered and you are served papers.

Dem'crats are the most vindictive office holders in the world, with the possible exception of an Islamic ayatollah or imam.

It is truly a pity that there are no longer two major political parties in this country, both of which endorse American values. Instead, we get almost the entire resources of one major party, and a goodly number in the other major party, devoted to some of the most anti-American propaganda and tactics they can muster.

Some people just cannot stand prosperity.


38 posted on 11/06/2006 12:51:19 PM PST by alloysteel (Facts do not cease to exist, just because they are ignored. - Aldous Huxley)
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To: neverdem

BTTT


39 posted on 11/06/2006 12:53:20 PM PST by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed -- * NRA * -- * JPFO *)
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To: Aquinasfan

AMEN!!!


40 posted on 11/06/2006 12:53:46 PM PST by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch (good fences make good neighbors!)
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To: neverdem
Paul Begala really liked Sager's book Mr Derbyshite...you know the one you link to Amazon? a little commission perhaps? A friendly exchange perhaps?

No - not a "dilemma" for me. I am voting Republican and Conservative.

I am doing so because the Emperor Manuel II Paleologus would want me to.

I am voting Republican down the line because the millions of unborn kids yet to die want me to!
41 posted on 11/06/2006 12:57:20 PM PST by eleni121 ("Show me just what Mohammed brought:: evil and inhumanity")
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To: neverdem

If John Derbyshire thinks this election is a "tough call", he is a real dumbass! Vote GOP even if you need a clothespin for your nose!


42 posted on 11/06/2006 12:57:40 PM PST by wjcsux (The Republicans are disappointing, the DemosRATs are dangerous- Dr. Sowell)
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To: neverdem

I was somewhat troubled and sad when Derbyshire said he was leaving his Church because the biologists had convinced him of the falseness of Christianity.

Now I really think he's losing it.


43 posted on 11/06/2006 12:58:00 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: GOPJ

One should vote even if its only to slap down the arrogant media!!


44 posted on 11/06/2006 12:58:48 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: gridlock
The Republicans are right on the WOT. Nothing else matters.

Who put Chafee and Kean on the ballot in RI and NJ?
45 posted on 11/06/2006 12:59:01 PM PST by sefarkas (Why vote Democrat Lite?)
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To: Tuscaloosa Goldfinch; All

I find the current poll ont he right side of the thread page very interesting. Read the internals on that poll. A very low precentage of members says they are staying home and not voting. A somewhat higher percentage of non-members say they are staying home. Democrat voters are higher in the non-member section than in the member section. I infer from these internals that more Dems are staying home than Repubs.

Now to the important part:

It is the duty of every American to vote in elections. If you refuse to vote Republican, you should vote Democrat or "third party", or write in a candidate in races where that is allowed. To not vote at all is a defacto vote for totalitarianism.


46 posted on 11/06/2006 1:00:58 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (..ON 11/7, YOU ARE EITHER WITH US, OR WITH THE TERRORISTS..)
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To: neverdem

Wishful thinking by PravdABDNC!!

Pray for W and The Election


47 posted on 11/06/2006 1:05:33 PM PST by bray (Voting for the Rats is a Death Wish)
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To: sefarkas
Who put Chafee and Kean on the ballot in RI and NJ?

Chafee and Kean were voted on to the ballot by weak-kneed, lily livered, feckless Republicans in RI and NJ, of course. Now they are on the ballot, and we have to vote for either them, or the Democrat alternative.

But if the Donks gain control of the Senate, we're all screwed, so that vote is easy to cast. Kean will vote with the Republicans on organization. After that, who knows? But that one vote is enough for me.

Chafee, I'm not so sure about even the organization vote. But if I were in RI, I would still vote for him, if only to poke a sharp stick into the eye of the Democrat Party.

If you don't want to vote, that's your business. It's a free country, even for fools.

48 posted on 11/06/2006 1:06:04 PM PST by gridlock (The GOP will pick up at least TWO seats in the Senate and FOUR seats in the House in 2006)
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To: neverdem

To vote or not to vote,
That is the question,
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous politicians,
or by voting, to influence them.

For want of a voter, the vote was lost.
For want of a vote, a seat was lost.
For want of a seat, the house was lost.
For want of the house, the impeachment was launched.

For want of a voter, a voice was lost...


49 posted on 11/06/2006 1:08:28 PM PST by MortMan (I was going to be indecisive, but I changed my mind.)
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To: neverdem
To Vote Or Not To Vote. A tough call for conservatives.

We could lose the war in one day and this idiot thinks it's a tough call? We could lose the chance for a Supreme Court majority in one day and this idiot thinks it's a tough call?

Vote. Even if you have to crawl over broken glass, holding your nose all the time...

50 posted on 11/06/2006 1:20:05 PM PST by omega4412 (Multiculturalism kills. 9/11, Beslan, Madrid, London)
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