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Australia may say farewell to Queen after republican leader wins election
Times Online ^ | November 26 2007 | Bernard Lagan

Posted on 11/26/2007 2:04:51 PM PST by knighthawk

Australia will hold a referendum on removing the Queen as head of state after Kevin Rudd, the Labor leader and a staunch republican, swept to power at the weekend, bringing an end to 11 years of Conservative rule.

Mr Rudd, 50, a former diplomat, has promised to hold a plebiscite on severing links with the monarchy. He said yesterday that he would withdraw Australian troops from Iraq and ratify the Kyoto pact on climate change.

With 53 percent of the vote, Mr Rudd brought an emphatic end to the 11-year tenure of John Howard, an avowed monarchist who was set last night to become the first Prime Minister since 1929 to lose his seat at a general election.

During the campaign Mr Rudd, who speaks fluent Mandarin and has lived in China, said: “Can I say, we’re going to consult the people again. We haven’t fixed a time frame for doing that, and I think the time will come before too much longer when we do have an Australian as our head of state,” Mr Howard allowed a referendum on the issue in 1999 but it was roundly rejected despite two thirds of Australian voters saying in successive polls that they wanted a Republic with an Australian head of state.

Critics of the referendum argued that it was rigged in favour of monarchists because it gave voters only the option of having Parliament elect a President and not the direct election of a head of state by the people.

Mr Rudd, who rose from an impoverished childhood in rural Queensland, has promised a plebiscite which is likely to offer a far broader means of choosing an Australian head of state. It is expected that the plebiscite would probably be held in 2010 in conjunction with the next general election.

Adding to the strong likelihood of Australia now becoming a republic was an announcement yesterday that Mr Howard’s Treasurer and heirapparent as leader of the LiberalNational Coalition, Peter Costello, was withdrawing from political life and would not seek to lead the Opposition.

It is now expected that the richest man in the Australian Parliament, a former lawyer and businessman, Malcolm Turnbull, will be elected Opposition leader later this week. Mr Turnbull, 52, is a leading republican and headed the Australian Republic movement at the time of the last referendum.

With polls showing strong support for a republic, Buckingham Palace insists that the issue can only be resolved at the ballot box. “I have always made it clear that the future of the monarchy in Australia is an issue for you, the Australian people, and you alone to decide by democratic and constitutional means. It should not be otherwise,” the Queen said during a State visit to Australia in 2000.

Mr Howard, the last avowed monarchist at the top of Australian public life, was set for an inglorious end to a career in public life by becoming only the second sitting Prime Minister in Australia to lose his seat at a general election.

The Sydney suburban parliamentary seat he has held for 33 years was expected to go to a former television newscaster, Maxine McKew. Mr Howard, 68, ignored the advice of some senior ministers that he should stand aside before the election.

Mr Rudd swept the Labor Party into office on the back of about 53 per cent of the vote compared with the Government’s 47 per cent. Computer projections show Labor on track to take at least 86 seats in Australia’s 150-seat House of Representatives.

Mr Howard was clearly unnerved by the scale of Labor’s win, which came despite his attempts throughout the campaign to sow alarm at the prospects of the party ruining Australia’s economy. Such an emphatic victory will allow Mr Rudd to begin implementing the core promises of his campaign, which include the withdrawal of Australia’s 550 troops in Iraq. Mr Rudd has said the troop withdrawal will be staged and done in consultation with the United States — which he will visit early next year. He will also the sign the Kyoto agreement on climate change on behalf of Australia — something Mr Howard had always refused to endorse.

Mr Rudd has also said he will offer a formal apology to Australian Aborigines for the injustices they have suffered at white hands.

Labor’s win sees the elevation of Australia’s first woman as deputy Prime Minister. Julia Gillard, 46, emigrated with her parents from Barry, South Glamorgan, when she was five years old. The daughter of a retired policeman, she trained as a lawyer and first came to public attention as leader of the Australian Union of Students.

Mr Rudd has three children and is independently wealthy because of the business success of his wife, Therese Rein, the founder of the Ingeus empire which bids for contracts to assist disabled people back into work.

How they stand

45%

of Australians are in favour of a republic

36%

are in favour of keeping the monarch

19%

are uncommitted to either, according to the latest poll conducted by The Australian in January 2007

Source: The Australian

I have always made it clear that the future of the monarchy in Australia is an issue for you, the Australian people, and you alone to decide by democratic and constitutional means. It should not be otherwise.

I shall continue faithfully to serve as Queen of Australia under the Constitution to the very best of my ability, as I have tried to do for the last 48 years. It is my duty to remain true to the interests of Australia and all Australians as we enter the 21st century. That is my duty. It is also my privilege and my pleasure.

The Queen, March 2000


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: australia; fauxchristians; monarchy; queen; royals; rudd; thequeen
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1 posted on 11/26/2007 2:04:53 PM PST by knighthawk
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To: MizSterious; Nix 2; green lantern; BeOSUser; Brad's Gramma; dreadme; Turk2; keri; ...

Ping


2 posted on 11/26/2007 2:05:12 PM PST by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: knighthawk

“He said yesterday that he would withdraw Australian troops from Iraq and ratify the Kyoto pact on climate change.”

Right after he assigns a council of mullahs and declares Australia under Sharia Law.


3 posted on 11/26/2007 2:06:53 PM PST by Slapshot68
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To: knighthawk

Maybe they can put a picture of Mao on the Aussie dollar?


4 posted on 11/26/2007 2:06:57 PM PST by corkoman
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To: knighthawk
During the campaign Mr Rudd, who speaks fluent Mandarin and has lived in China...

Oh wonderful.

5 posted on 11/26/2007 2:07:03 PM PST by DoughtyOne (California, where the death penalty is reserved for wholesome values. SB 777)
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To: knighthawk

Australia has a queen?


6 posted on 11/26/2007 2:07:21 PM PST by cripplecreek (Only one consistent conservative in this race and his name is Hunter.)
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To: knighthawk

So long Australia.


7 posted on 11/26/2007 2:07:31 PM PST by Ingtar (The LDS problem that Romney is facing is not his religion, but his Lacking Decisive Stands.)
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To: knighthawk

Can we run this through Babelfish so the political terms are in proper American? Republican seems to have a different connotation than we can adapt to even with Republicans acting like spend-crazy Democrats.


8 posted on 11/26/2007 2:09:06 PM PST by RightWhale (anti-razors are pro-life)
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To: knighthawk; naturalman1975; Aussie Dasher; All

Hey Aussie Freepers is this true???


9 posted on 11/26/2007 2:09:10 PM PST by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: knighthawk
He said yesterday that he would withdraw Australian troops from Iraq and ratify the Kyoto pact on climate change.

Hang onto your seats Mates, your grand/proud country is in for a helluvaride.

10 posted on 11/26/2007 2:09:50 PM PST by yoe ( NO THIRD TERM FOR THE CLINTON'S!!!)
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To: knighthawk

Australia will keep the monarchy until at least the Queen dies. She is still liked there by many. It will be a voter turnout problem for the republicans. There is also some benefits of being in the Commonwealth that the Aussies won’t want to readily give up.


11 posted on 11/26/2007 2:10:01 PM PST by Barney Gumble (A liberal is someone too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost)
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To: knighthawk

Is this Oz, or Looking-Glass Land?


12 posted on 11/26/2007 2:10:11 PM PST by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: knighthawk

I suspect that Rudd will get the rug pulled out from under him. He comes in at a time when the economy is booming. He’s got no where to go but down.


13 posted on 11/26/2007 2:10:18 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: knighthawk
What in the world were they thinking when they voted for this guy?

Oooops ... I bet they asked the same question when we elected Clinton I. I hope they are dissapointed when we reject Clinton II!

14 posted on 11/26/2007 2:10:22 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: knighthawk

I would hope the good people of Australia would blanch at this separation from the queen notion. The day will come in the not too distant future when Australia had better have solid ties to Britain and the U.S. Unless Australia wants to become China’s upcoming satellite, it better pull it’s head out.


15 posted on 11/26/2007 2:10:32 PM PST by DoughtyOne (California, where the death penalty is reserved for wholesome values. SB 777)
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To: knighthawk
Those pesky republicans!


16 posted on 11/26/2007 2:10:50 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: knighthawk

“Mr Rudd, 50, a former diplomat, has promised to hold a plebiscite on severing links with the monarchy. He said yesterday that he would withdraw Australian troops from Iraq and ratify the Kyoto pact on climate change”

Oh brother!!


17 posted on 11/26/2007 2:12:04 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Ingtar

Don’t care about the monarchy bit - as the Windsors aren’t doing squat to stop the Islamification of the UK - but the other Australian leftward moves aren’t promising.


18 posted on 11/26/2007 2:13:16 PM PST by Dagnabitt (Si se puede con Huckabee!)
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To: knighthawk

After they banned guns what else did they expect?


19 posted on 11/26/2007 2:14:16 PM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

It gets worse...one of his main advisors is a rock star from the band Midnight Oil. Poor Australia, hope they survive.


20 posted on 11/26/2007 2:16:00 PM PST by mallardx
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To: SevenofNine

Another question to Australian Freepers...
Is it true that Rudman pandered to Australia’s version of America’s
“values voters”?

I heard one news report that mentioned his going after the “values
voters” of Australia. But, that when asked on some interview show
when asked “Do you think Jesus is the Son of God?, he hesitated
and then launched off into a long-winded diversionary commentary about
his “well-known church attendance”...of course, never answering the question.

I’m not one that thinks politicians need to push their religional
“worldview” in order to get votes...but I do sit up when a politician
uses religion as a “lure” for votes, but then appears to be something of
an empty suit on religion.

Any thought about Rudman on this issue?


21 posted on 11/26/2007 2:16:21 PM PST by VOA
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To: RightWhale

Republicans in Australia (and many other countries) want Australia to be a Republic.

I agree with the notion that Rudd has no where to go but down. The Australian economy has been booming for the last decade. Immigration law is fairly tough, boat people are thrown in deportation camps. However, taxes are already quite high and I suspect signing the Kyoto protocol will have a bad effect on the economy, especially since the one of the top Aussie exports is coal.


22 posted on 11/26/2007 2:16:37 PM PST by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: Dagnabitt

When HTML goes bad.


23 posted on 11/26/2007 2:16:38 PM PST by Dagnabitt (Si se puede con Huckabee!)
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To: cripplecreek
Australia has a queen?


24 posted on 11/26/2007 2:17:24 PM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: SevenofNine

OOPS...I meant “Rudd” NOT “Rudman” (momentary synapse failure
with a substitution of a former US Senator!)


25 posted on 11/26/2007 2:17:32 PM PST by VOA
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To: Dagnabitt

I was referring to the Leftward moves, not the monarchy. I should have made that clear.


26 posted on 11/26/2007 2:17:47 PM PST by Ingtar (The LDS problem that Romney is facing is not his religion, but his Lacking Decisive Stands.)
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To: mallardx

“It gets worse...one of his main advisors is a rock star from the band Midnight Oil. Poor Australia, hope they survive.”

Yeah, it got worse.


27 posted on 11/26/2007 2:19:46 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: knighthawk
Mr Rudd has three children and is independently wealthy because of the business success of his wife, Therese Rein, the founder of the Ingeus empire which bids for contracts to assist disabled people back into work.

JFnK jr?

PS First with it's Bush's fault!

28 posted on 11/26/2007 2:22:29 PM PST by rocksblues (Just enforce the law!)
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To: Ingtar

Clear. I was mostly just commenting on the article itself.
Shame too to see Costello out of the picture.


29 posted on 11/26/2007 2:25:24 PM PST by Dagnabitt (Si se puede con Huckabee!)
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To: knighthawk
Sounds like Australians have elected their own Dennis Kucinich.
30 posted on 11/26/2007 2:25:46 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Wanna see how bad it can get? Elect Hillary and find out.)
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To: DoughtyOne

“During the campaign Mr Rudd, who speaks fluent Mandarin and has lived in China...”

I will bet you Rudd’s “fluency” in Mandarin is like George’s “fluency” in Spanish…nada, zip, nothing.


31 posted on 11/26/2007 2:27:41 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: cripplecreek
Australia has a queen?

Elizabeth II. Australia is part of the Commonwealth realm.

32 posted on 11/26/2007 2:28:57 PM PST by Publius Valerius
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To: knighthawk

I have never believed in MONARCHIES. They are rarefied welfare recipients on the permanent dole at the expense of the taxpayer. They have no place in the 21st century. I might also add that we as Americans and especially conservative “republicans” with a small “r” should begin in earnest to export the ideology and principles of our founding fathers. For far too long we have imported the failed ideas of others. It’s time to fight back, the cultural and ideological war is just as important as the one we fight with bullets and bombs. We cannot afford to win on one front and yet lose on the other.


33 posted on 11/26/2007 2:30:32 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: cripplecreek
Australia has a queen?


34 posted on 11/26/2007 2:31:53 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Cacique

Why should we fault Australia for doing what we wanted to do back in 1776?


35 posted on 11/26/2007 2:32:34 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: knighthawk

36 posted on 11/26/2007 2:37:51 PM PST by Constitution Day (Everything was fine until membership lost its privileges)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

You may be right.


37 posted on 11/26/2007 2:40:57 PM PST by DoughtyOne (California, where the death penalty is reserved for wholesome values. SB 777)
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To: knighthawk

To amend the Australian constitution to make Australian a republic, the measure must:

1. Pass a majority of States (4 out of 6)

2. Pass a majority of the whole number of voters nationwide.

Here are the votes in 2000:

States, must win 4

New South Wales - 46.43%

Victoria - 49.84%

Queensland - 37.44%

Western Australia - 41.48%

South Australia - 43.57%

Tasmania - 40.37%

Territories, national vote only:

Australian Capital Territory - 63.27%

Northern Territory - 48.77%

National total - 45.13%

The republicans “might” be able to get a nationwide majority if they run up the numbers in Victoria, New South Wales, and the Australian Capital Territory. (Canberra, whose votes only count in the nationwide vote, not the state vote.)

The question is can the republicans get four states? In 1999 they didn’t top 50% in any of them.

I’m wondering in 2010 if they will do much better?


38 posted on 11/26/2007 2:46:24 PM PST by GreenLanternCorps (Thompson for President: 2008, 2012: Jindal for President 2016, 2020)
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To: knighthawk

Is that true? Did Howard actually lose his parliment seat?


39 posted on 11/26/2007 2:47:19 PM PST by Norman Bates
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To: Slapshot68

“He said yesterday that he would withdraw Australian troops from Iraq

Yes it will suck losing those 800 military personnel. /sarc. Good riddence.


40 posted on 11/26/2007 2:51:22 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Barney Gumble

Voter turnout will not be a problem. It’s mandatory universal suffrage.


41 posted on 11/26/2007 2:52:00 PM PST by Norman Bates
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To: dfwgator

“Why should we fault Australia for doing what we wanted to do back in 1776?”

There is really no comparison here to King George and all the crap the colonists put up with.


42 posted on 11/26/2007 2:53:32 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: DoughtyOne

“During the campaign Mr Rudd, who speaks fluent Mandarin and has lived in China...”

Unreal, I know nothing about the guy but this has to be significant.


43 posted on 11/26/2007 2:59:05 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: knighthawk
Rudd =

?

44 posted on 11/26/2007 3:06:28 PM PST by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: rocksblues
JFnK jr?

No, more like getting rich at the public trough. His wife has a different last name and started a "woman"-owned business for preference in bidding. How does someone strike it rich doing charity work? This doesn't bother the Australian taxpayer?

45 posted on 11/26/2007 3:11:47 PM PST by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: WoofDog123

Well it seemed so to me, but another poster mentioned that it’s possible Rudd doesn’t really speak Manderin fluently. Whether or not, the last thing we need is another world leader that is soft on China.


46 posted on 11/26/2007 3:15:32 PM PST by DoughtyOne (California, where the death penalty is reserved for wholesome values. SB 777)
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To: napscoordinator
Good afternoon.

I believe Australia rotates SAS troopies in and out as we do with SF, to do the same job.

If so, you can bet they’ll be missed.

If not, there is still no reason to be snide about brave war fighters who go where their government tells them to.

Michael Frazier

47 posted on 11/26/2007 3:20:18 PM PST by brazzaville (No surrender, no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: brazzaville

True. I love Austrailia although I have not visited there since 2002, I would go back in a minute.


48 posted on 11/26/2007 3:21:23 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: cripplecreek

yes and eventually Prince Charles will be king. I can understand why they want a republic...


49 posted on 11/26/2007 3:21:49 PM PST by ari-freedom (CONgress is the opposite of PROgress)
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To: knighthawk

53% ...not exactly a landslide ....


50 posted on 11/26/2007 3:36:43 PM PST by SkyDancer ("There is no distinctly Native American criminal class...save Congress - Mark Twain")
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