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Barack Obama vs Lou Dobbs (WAPO catches Obama in a lie against Limbaugh and Dobbs!)
Washington Post ^ | June 4, 2008 | Michael Dobbs (not related to Lou)

Posted on 06/04/2008 11:43:40 AM PDT by Kleebo151

"A certain segment has basically been feeding a kind of xenophobia. There's a reason why hate crimes against Hispanic people doubled last year. If you have people like Lou Dobbs and Rush Limbaugh ginning things up, it's not surprising that would happen." --Barack Obama, Palm Beach fundraiser, May 22, 2008.

The presumptive Democratic nominee for president needs to be more careful in his use of statistics. If he is going to blame Lou Dobbs and Rush Limbaugh for "ginning up" hate crimes against Hispanics, he needs solid data to back up his allegation. The hate crimes statistics that he threw around at a fundraiser in Florida are wildly inaccurate--and a subsequent modified claim provided by his campaign was also off the mark.

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In short, Obama pulled statistics out of nowhere when he blamed Rush Limbaugh and Lou Dobbs for the now-debunked "doubling" in anti-Latino hate crimes.

The author notes that this is not the first time Obama cites bogus numbers (he said 1000 people had died in a Kansas tornado which took 12 lives).

1 posted on 06/04/2008 11:43:41 AM PDT by Kleebo151
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To: Kleebo151

Another lie by Barack Hussein Obama. Stupid.


2 posted on 06/04/2008 11:45:01 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: Kleebo151
A certain segment has basically been feeding a kind of xenophobia.

I presume this is the same old 'clinging to their guns and religion' segment.

3 posted on 06/04/2008 11:47:09 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: Kleebo151

Nothing you can say or do will convince these people otherwise...


Because I am the one they and I have been waiting for...and I am lovin' it.

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

Those wild eyed people represent the millions of Americans raised in the government day-care and indoctrination centers we call public schools who did not have, or would not listen to, parents and others who tried to counterweight the garbage they heard at school...who have been raised on 60 second sound bite time spans and know no better.

You have other tens of millions on the dole who will vote for him regardless of position because he promises to keep pilfering the public largess for them.

Still othes of millions will vote for him simply because he is black.

Other millions will vote for him because they know exactly who he is and what he represents and agree with his anti-American positions.

The first three are all what is termed, useful idiots, a term coined by Lenin for the dupes he got to support him.

Against this it is left to us to educate, arouse, and amass the tens of millions of Americans who understand and hold fast to the foundational principles our constitutional republic rests upon...many of them the bitter, rural Americans clinging to their guns and religion that Obama so arrogantly spoke of.

4 posted on 06/04/2008 11:48:01 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Kleebo151
He actually claimed 10,000 tornado deaths.

Regardless, one issue that has not been given a lot of airing is the number of "hate crimes" against African-Americans committed by Hispanics - which, if I'm not mistaken, has been increasing.

5 posted on 06/04/2008 11:48:01 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Kleebo151

If I remember right he said 10,000 people died in Kansas tornados.


6 posted on 06/04/2008 11:48:21 AM PDT by MNMom
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To: apocalypto

...his life is one perpetual stream of lies...what’s one more?


7 posted on 06/04/2008 11:48:23 AM PDT by Notwithstanding ("You are either with America in our time of need or you are not" - Hillary from Senate well 9/12/01)
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To: apocalypto

The MSM will “be needin’ to do a lot of coverin’ up” for this dangerous idiot.


8 posted on 06/04/2008 11:48:41 AM PDT by unkus
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To: Kleebo151

I actually think he said 10,000. I may be wrong. He follows the Marxist rulebook to a T. If you’re going to tell a lie, make it a big one. Plus he knows he wont get called on it by MSM.


9 posted on 06/04/2008 11:49:54 AM PDT by USMCGunnut (Be polite, be professional....but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Kleebo151
In short, Obama pulled statistics out of nowhere

No, he pulled them from the posterior part of his anatomy.

10 posted on 06/04/2008 11:51:04 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (1984 was supposed to be a warning not an instruction manual!)
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To: apocalypto

So he will be playing into everyone’s prejudices, self-loathing, white guilt, and pre-conceived notions - and facts be damned. And how few there will be who will call him on this - certainly not the media who created him.

Some leader.....right off the cliff.


11 posted on 06/04/2008 11:52:24 AM PDT by Aria (NO RAPIST ENABLER FOR PRESIDENT!!!)
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To: Jeff Head

I intend to write a list of ten items, similar to the contract with America. If Senator McCain agrees with them and makes a formal campaign promise to perform each one, then I will resume my previous activity as a hard working volunteer for our party, otherwise I will vote, but I will make no donations and do no election campaign work. What do you think this list of items should contain? Thanks


12 posted on 06/04/2008 11:53:49 AM PDT by kwillcox (taping is ok)
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To: Jeff Head

OK...so this leaves us with...McCain?


13 posted on 06/04/2008 11:54:12 AM PDT by kjo
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To: Jeff Head

I call them the “Obamanation”

Good points all.


14 posted on 06/04/2008 11:54:54 AM PDT by USMCGunnut (Be polite, be professional....but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: kjo
No. I think I'll write in Lou Dobbs' daughter.
15 posted on 06/04/2008 11:55:45 AM PDT by BGHater ("Save water, shower with a friend")
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To: Kleebo151
[...] hate crimes against Hispanic people doubled last year.

Doubled? From what, perhaps six "hate crimes," to maybe twelve? I'd be interested in hearing him quote the absolute number of such crimes which have been reported.

Well, considering the rapid rise in the number of illegal aliens in our country, I suppose that there might be some basis to that.

But then again, how does he define "hate crimes?" Do they include verbal assaults?

I'd like to hear him cite, just once, the statistics pertaining to the increase in crimes committed by illegal aliens.

All in all, another example of fuzzy thinking,combined with race-baiting.

Regards,

16 posted on 06/04/2008 11:56:33 AM PDT by alexander_busek
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To: Kleebo151

Blood libel, old as the hills.


17 posted on 06/04/2008 11:58:37 AM PDT by junta (It's Poltical Correctness stupid! Hold liberals accountable for their actions, a new idea.)
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To: Kleebo151
I wish Mencia would allow for the posting of his skit where he plays the "Mooching Illegal" who steals Lou Dobbs's social security number.

Even though I often agree with them, Dobbs always looks like he needs some metamucil pronto.

18 posted on 06/04/2008 11:58:46 AM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: Kleebo151

This the same that most of these race baiters and multiculturalist have been doing all along. Either misquoting and outright lying or selectively choosing the statistics they use. In addition they chastise white people for stereotyping then turn right around and condemn all whites. Of course the press has been complicit in much of it too.


19 posted on 06/04/2008 11:59:01 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Kleebo151
It took them 12 days to check the FBI stats? I called it the very day the story came out. See post #39 here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2020312/posts

20 posted on 06/04/2008 11:59:42 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Kleebo151

Obama says that hate crimes against Hispanics has doubled in all 57 states!


21 posted on 06/04/2008 12:00:00 PM PDT by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: MNMom
"If I remember right he said 10,000 people died in Kansas tornados."

Lets not forget, Obama's America has 57 states. You probably are not counting those deaths in those other 7 states.

22 posted on 06/04/2008 12:00:46 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Kleebo151
This Amy Goodman person seems like a world-class lefty con artist.


23 posted on 06/04/2008 12:05:53 PM PDT by ruination
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To: Altura Ct.; Jeff Head; All

“This the same that most of these race baiters and multiculturalist have been doing all along. “

by Patrick J. Buchanan

In 2004, the voters of Arizona, by 56 percent to 44 percent, enacted Proposition 200, requiring proof of citizenship before an individual may vote or receive state benefits. Forty-six percent of Hispanics voted for Prop. 200, giving the lie to those who say Hispanics support the illegal invasion of their country.

Over 190,000 Arizonans petitioned to put Prop. 200 on the ballot. As it simply required proof of citizenship before receiving the benefits and privileges of citizenship, who could oppose it?

Answer: the entire GOP congressional delegation, led by Sen. John McCain.

http://www.firesociety.com/forum/thread/21589/Why-McCain-Would-be-Worse-Than-Bush/

April, 2006 - SEN. JOHN MCCAIN (R), ARIZONA: “ My friends, I’ll offer anybody here $50 an hour if you’ll go pick lettuce in Yuma this season and pick for whole season. So — OK? Sign up. OK. When you sign up — you sign up, and you’ll be there for the whole season. The whole season, OK? Not just one day. Because you can’t do it, my friend. Sign up.”
(VIDEO CLIP) http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/13/ldt.01.html
_____________________________________

In his comments to reporters Tuesday, McCain took on some of those in his party who call the bill amnesty.

“Anything short of rounding up 12 million people and deporting them is called amnesty by the opponents of this legislation,” he said. “I’ll point out that (illegal immigrants) will have to pay back taxes, they’ll have to pay a fine, they’ll have to go back to their country of origin, and it’s at least 15 years before they are in anyway eligible for citizenship.” (HE LIED)

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/05/30/news/top_stories/1_01_505_29_07.txt


24 posted on 06/04/2008 12:10:43 PM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because ya can't blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: ruination

Amy Goodman recently was pushing the BS story about unreported sexual assaultin in the army.


25 posted on 06/04/2008 12:10:43 PM PDT by stan_sipple
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To: Kleebo151

Obama’s ‘Not Exactly’s’:

1.) Selma Got Me Born - NOT EXACTLY, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965. (Google ‘Obama Selma’ for his full March 4, 2007 speech and articles about its various untruths.)

2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - NOT EXACTLY, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.

3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - NOT EXACTLY, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.

4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - NOT EXACTLY,
your
cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya . It is the first widespread violence in decades. The current government is pro-American but Odinga wants to overthrow it and establish Muslim Sharia law. Your half-brother, Abongo Obama, is Odinga’s follower. You interrupted your New Hampshire campaigning to speak to Odinga on the phone. Check out the following link for verificat ion of that..and for more. Obama’s cousin Odinga in Kenya ran for president and tried to get Sharia muslim law in place there. When Odinga lost the elections, his followers have burned Christians’ homes and then burned men, women and children alive in a Christian church where they took shelter.. Obama SUPPORTED his cousin before the election process here started. Google Obama and Odinga and see what you get. No one wants to know the truth.

5.) My Grandmother Has Always BeenA Christian - NOT EXACTLY, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5 am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Ch ristianity wouldn’t allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.

6.) My Name is African Swahili - NOT EXACTLY, your name is Arabic and
‘Baraka’ (from which Barack came) means ‘blessed’ in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama Barack Hussein. Obama is not half black. If elected, he would be the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother’s side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father’s side. While Barack Hussein Obama’s father was from Kenya , his father’s family was mainly Arabs. Barack Hussein Obama’s father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab and (his father’s birth certificate even states he’s Arab, not African Negro). From....and for more....go to.....

http://www.arcadeathome.com/newsboy.phtml?Barack_Hussein_Obama_-_Arab-Americ

7.) I Never Practiced Islam - NOT EXACTLY, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office. 4-3-08 Article ‘Obama was ‘quite religious in islam’

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=60559

8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - NOT EXACTLY, you were
registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book). February 28, 2008. Kristoff from the New York Times .. a year ago: Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it’ll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama descr ibed the call to prayer as ‘one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.’ This is just one example of what Pamela is talking about when she says ‘Obama’s narrative is being
altered, enhanced and manipulated to whitewash troubling facts.’

9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - NOT EXACTLY, not one teacher says you could speak the language.

10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia , I Have More Foreign Experience - NOT EXACTLY, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn’t even speak the language . What did you learn ???... how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.

11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - NOT EXACTLY, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never b een any where else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our& nbsp;closest allies.

12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - NOT EXACTLY, you were quite content in high school to be “Barry Obama”, ... no mention of Kenya and no mention of a struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.

13.) An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - NOT EXACTLY, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn’t, and
never did, exist.

14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - NOT
EXACTLY, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It
doesn’t, and never did, exist.

15.) I Won’t Run On A National Ticket In ‘08 - NOT EXACTLY, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.

16.) Voting ‘Present’ is Common In Illinois Senate - NOT EXACTLY, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.

17.) Oops, I Misvoted - NOT EXACTLY, only when caught by church groups and Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.

18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - NOT EXACTLY< /SPAN>, - you were a senior lecturer - - - ON LEAVE.

19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - NOT EXACTLY, - - - you were a senior
lecturer ON LEAVE.

20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - NOT EXACTLY, you didn’t write it, introduce it, change it, or create it.

21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass -

NOT EXACTLY, it took just 14
days from start to finish.

22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - NOT EXACTLY, your bill was

rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation
- mainly because of your Nuclear donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.

23.) I Have Released My State Records - NOT EXACTLY, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.

24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - NOT EXACTLY, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens . You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.

25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - NOT EXACTLY, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.

26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - NOT EXACTLY, even your
own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.

27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - NOT EXACTLY, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.

28.) No One on my campaign contacted Canada about NAFTA - NOT EXACTLY, the Canadian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.

29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - NOT EXACTLY, you missed the Iran
Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports
the destruction off Israel

30.) I Want All Votes To Count - NOT EXACTLY, you said let the
delegates decide.

31.) I Want Americans To Decide - NOT EXACTLY, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.

32.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - NOT EXACTLY, you passed 26, most of which you didn’t write yourself.

33.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - NOT EXACTLY, you used
tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.

34.) I Don’t Take PAC Money - NOT EXACTLY, you take loads of it.

35.) I don’t Have Lobbyists -

NOT EXACTLY, you have over 47
lobbyists, and counting.

36.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - NOT EXACTLY, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.

37.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - NOT EXACTLY, you weren’t in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fun d it every single time.

38.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - NOT EXACTLY, your plan leaves us all to pay for the 15,000,000 who don’t have to buy it


26 posted on 06/04/2008 12:12:32 PM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: Nathan Zachary

Beat you by 46 seconds. LOL! Great minds, anyway...


27 posted on 06/04/2008 12:14:15 PM PDT by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: Kleebo151
93.57% of all statistics are made up right on the spot.
28 posted on 06/04/2008 12:14:25 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Hillary to Obama: Arkancide happens.)
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To: Kleebo151
He pull 57 states right out of mid air and he got away with it — people believe him. Kids now think there are 57 states. And he is going to go farther and really push it -- the whoppers -- because that's probably his big temptation... after being in Wright's church I can't see how it can't be.
29 posted on 06/04/2008 12:14:27 PM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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To: alexander_busek
But then again, how does he define "hate crimes?"

The LA Times tries to document all murders across LA county, which probably has more Hispanics than any other county in the U.S.

latimesblogs.latimes.com/homicidereport

It's at least 90% brown-brown/black-brown/black-black/brown-black.
30 posted on 06/04/2008 12:17:12 PM PDT by ruination
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To: Kleebo151

There are lies, damned lies, and statistics....

Then there are Obambi-statistics which are just pulled out of the a##

Obama is the kind of slovenly leftist who believe every bit of propaganda thrown about by the hatefest of leftist activist groups - of course he would not question whether “hate crimes” doubled (in all 57 states!!) or whether “10,000” people died in Kansas tornados..... he has no sense of accuracy, objectivity, or rigor. I have seen so many of these campus activist/community “organizer” frauds who just recite whatever nonsense they are spoon-fed by ACORN, Nader groups, etc.


31 posted on 06/04/2008 12:20:20 PM PDT by Enchante (Barack Chamberlain: My 1930s Appeasement Policy Goes Well With My 1960s Socialist Policies!)
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To: wideawake

and the other way around


32 posted on 06/04/2008 12:20:33 PM PDT by stan_sipple
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To: Kleebo151

“...and that is why we must SILENCE the HATE SPEECH by Limbaugh, Dobbs, Free Republic, and all other conservatives in order to achieve my vision of Groupthink...uh...um...I mean Unity! Remember, the culture wars are over, and I WON!!”


33 posted on 06/04/2008 12:21:10 PM PDT by informavoracious (Freedom Isn't Free)
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To: kwillcox

IMMIGRATION
1) Border fence (actual) augmented by virtual fence and National Guard. Let them train for fighting the Jihadists by rotating through border security.

2) Voluntary deportation policy. Illegals with no criminal record or terror ties who voluntarily deport will get positive consideration for guest worker or immigration requests. If we have to find them, they are banned for life (as are the criminals and terror linked).

3) Severely punish (crininally and with fines) businesses that hire illegal aliens outside of law.

ENERGY
4) Announce immediate drilling (by executive order if necessary as a matter of national security) in ANWR, off the West Coast, off the Gulf Coast, in the Rocky woith the Coal Shale, and elsewhere.

5) Announce immdediate building (by executive order if necessary as a matter of national security) of new oil refinieries and nuclear power plants (again by executive order if necessary) such that our fuel and electrical supplies are vouchsafed by domestic production capabilites.

6) Allow all federal funding of the Endangered Species Act to end. The act itself sunsetted some years ago but has been administratively continued. This one act is one of the greates roadblock and hinderances to energy production in this country.

FOREIGN POLICY
7) Give Iran 90 days to compy with international wishes regarding its nuclear plants, or have them, and the C&C face annihilation.

8) Remove the PRC from MFNS and inform them that unless and until their government makes specific humanitarian, personal freedom, and human rights changes that trade with them will be highly restricted.

MILITARY
9) Add back at least two divisions, two fighter wings, two bomber wings, two aircraft carrier strike groups, two amphibious assault groups, 10 SSBNs, and complete and deploy BMD, and the airborne laser.

ECONOMIC
10) Make the Bush tax cuts permanent and make further reductions in capital gains, inheritance, and corporate taxes.

...to start.


34 posted on 06/04/2008 12:30:20 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: COUNTrecount

Wow, good list...I just sent it off to a bunch of folks.


35 posted on 06/04/2008 12:36:39 PM PDT by SoDak (Anything but obama)
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To: apocalypto

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/obamalies/index


36 posted on 06/04/2008 12:38:37 PM PDT by weegee (In 1988 Lenora Fulani was the 1st black woman to appear on presidential ballots in all 50 states)
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To: Kleebo151
The author notes that this is not the first time Obama cites bogus numbers (he said 1000 people had died in a Kansas tornado which took 12 lives).

Glad you mentioned Kansas, or I wouldn't know which of the "57 states" the tornado hit.

37 posted on 06/04/2008 12:39:06 PM PDT by stratboy
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To: Kleebo151
That said, however, there is no excuse for resorting to equally flawed data to attack Dobbs and his ilk...

The word 'ilk' as used here has a pejorative connotation. It is completely inappropriate for a self-styled fact-checker to issue such subjective value judgments. Perhaps Michael Dobbs needs to fact-check himself. Unfortunately, it is par for the course from the Washington Post...

38 posted on 06/04/2008 12:41:43 PM PDT by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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To: COUNTrecount

Great List!


39 posted on 06/04/2008 12:48:19 PM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: Kleebo151

O great Apostle of Hope and Change, what about the native-born blacks gunned down in LA, simply because of their race, by Hispanic gangsters? Are those “brothers” xenophobic, O great Hussein?


40 posted on 06/04/2008 1:00:57 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: Kleebo151

Like a liberal needs any kind of evidence to back up a claim. According to the the seriousness of the charge is good enough, that is, if it’s directed at anyone other than them.


41 posted on 06/04/2008 1:10:45 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: Blind Eye Jones
"He pull 57 states right out of mid air and he got away with it — people believe him. Kids now think there are 57 states."

It was so telling because it's what he learned as a kid. It's those early lessons like basic math and geography that are impossible to supplant in the subconscious.

42 posted on 06/04/2008 1:12:02 PM PDT by StAnDeliver
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To: Kleebo151
Kudus to Lou Dobbs.

If he red FR, he'd have known the May 22 stats were fake on May 23.

Obama: Limbaugh, Lou Dobbs Spur Latino Hate

What did you get in math Barry? There's no doubling here, rather about a 10% rise, a touch larger than the total increase. I believe the 2007 report comes out in November.

Incidents, Offenses, Victims, and Known Offenders

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2006/table1.html
by Bias Motivation, 2006

§                             Download Excel

 

Bias motivation

Incidents

Offenses

Victims1

Known offenders2

Anti-Hispanic

576

770

819

802

Total

7,722

9,080

9,652

7,330

 

Incidents, Offenses, Victims, and Known Offenders
by Bias Motivation, 2005

§                         http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2005/table1.htm

 

§                                 Download Excel


Bias motivation

Incidents

Offenses

Victims1

Known offenders2

Anti-Hispanic

522

660

722

691

Total

7,722

9,080

9,652

7,330

 

 

Forgot to note that 7.5% (576 anti-hispanic incidents of 7,722) is about half the rate of the hispanic population, about 15% per the 2000 census, which doesn't include illegals.

If it comes out of Obama's mouth, it's worth checking.

43 posted on 06/04/2008 1:17:04 PM PDT by SJackson (It is impossible to build a peace process based on blood, Natan Sharansky)
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To: COUNTrecount

Thank you for your list. Too bad that the MSM doesn’t check this out. I guess they do but just don’t report it. Thanks again.


44 posted on 06/04/2008 1:33:29 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (My Tee shirt for 2009-2012:" I voted FRED don't you wish you did")
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To: Kleebo151
Re: The author notes that this is not the first time Obama cites bogus numbers (he said 1000 people had died in a Kansas tornado which took 12 lives).


45 posted on 06/04/2008 1:35:57 PM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: unkus

“The MSM will “be needin’ to do a lot of coverin’ up” for this dangerous idiot.”

They will. Count on it.


46 posted on 06/04/2008 1:41:48 PM PDT by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense? Don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: Jeff Head

I am no Obama supporter, but a brief review of your web site, and comparison with the original source of its most inflammatory language, is very troubling ...

You state that James Cones book reads:

>>> Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.

You have deliberately misstated key parts of this:

The book does not read “against white people” - it reads “against white racists”

The book does not read “descruction of the white enemy” - it reads “destruction of the white oppressor”

And these are only two I found, I did not check ever bit of it. Both misquotes make big differences.

Even if your overall point is valid: Doing so by these flagrant misquotes from published and easily accessible text is disgusting.


47 posted on 06/04/2008 2:11:27 PM PDT by seanrobins (blog.seanrobins.com)
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To: seanrobins
That quote is a quote of Cone's. It is attributed to him in "Divine Racism: The Unacknowledged Threshold Issue for Black Theology", in African-American Religious Thought: An Anthology, by William R Jones, ed Cornel West and Eddie Glaube (Westminster John Knox Press).

I mistakenling attributed it to the book, A Black Theology for Liberation, wherein Cone makes a similar quote from which you quoted, and now have corrected that oversite on my site.

But the quote is real and is from Cone...and it is not me who is disgusting in the least, but author and the theology itself which so perverts the love of Christ into such a thing of hate, vengence, bigotry, and intolerance...the very antithesis of what Christ taught.

Thanks for the critique, it helped me correct a slight error...albeit it not in the way you judged.

48 posted on 06/04/2008 2:42:07 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: apocalypto

I thought the second coming was incapable of lies just as Jesus was on HIS first trip around?


49 posted on 06/04/2008 2:46:03 PM PDT by PISANO
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To: Jeff Head

Check again, use your own link to the book on Amazon.com, and then do a search the contents of the book. The book itself shows your quote to be a misquote.

It would seem to me that the quote - taken from Cone’s own book, would be a better source for Cone, than someone else’s book purporting to quote the same text.....


50 posted on 06/04/2008 4:43:49 PM PDT by seanrobins (blog.seanrobins.com)
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