THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA
Posted on 06/15/2008 8:23:27 AM PDT by pissant
The media, now focusing on the general election, have taken to naming likely vice presidential candidates and frequently include a surprising choice on Sen. Barack Obama's list.
Nebraska Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel found his way onto that list after repeatedly clashing with the Bush administration and fellow Republicans over the Iraq War, the No Child Left Behind law and the prescription-drug plan under Medicare.
Hagel, who is not running for re-election, spoke to a crowd of about 150 at the libertarian-minded Cato Institute Thursday to promote his book, "America: Our Next Chapter." He said he isn't saying yes to the presumptive Democratic nominee, "but it would have to be considered."
The book, released in March, outlines the challenges this country faces and how to confront them.
"With all our problems, with all our challenges, and we have a lot of them ... there isn't a problem out there we can't fix. There's not a challenge out there we can't meet," Hagel said.
Cato President Edward Crane brought up the possibility of an Obama/Hagel match up while introducing the second-term senator and was the one who later prodded him to answer if he would go along with it.
"It would make me a lot more interested in Obama than I am right now," Crane said.
Hagel, a friend of Sen. John McCain's, has met with both candidates recently, he said, and said either will take the country in the right direction after "four years of drift" by operating through consensus and bipartisanship.
He seemed to send a jab President Bush's way during the discussion when he mentioned he was a fan of former President Eisenhower.
"Eisenhower used to think," Hagel said, emphasizing the end. "I know that's foreign."
Hagel runs with Demoncrat.
Your point is?
Will someone please explain how Chuck Hagel can talk to Libertarians one day and at the same time consider hooking up with Obama on a ticket? Obama is a socialist.
Hagel is totally confused, and beginning to look a little bit senile.
nice...hagel looks like the ideal VP candidate for mccain as well. What a useful idiot.
Hagel is a first class ahole, he is the “new” Lincoln Chaffey.
He is speaking at the Cato Institute and would consider running with Obama. Sounds like he should be speaking somewhere else.
Opportunistic whore.
Hagel, Bloomberg, Lieberman...who else is open to "close association" with EITHER ticket? Maybe Hillary Clinton? What this tells us is not comforting about 2008-2012 and beyond.
Nebraska Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel found his way onto that list
Hagel continues to be a useful tool of the left.
I can see no reason why Hagel would be on Obama list unless it was for pure propaganda purposes
Hagel + Obama would be great as far as I’m concerned. Good riddance.
Weird, considering that aside from the war and Bush Derangement Syndrome, Hagel has almost nothing in common with Obama. Their domestic positions are on opposite ends of the spectrum.
Even on the war, they aren’t really on the same page about what’s to be done now. This just doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.
Well, not sure Chuckie was anymore ‘bipartisan’ than McCain these last 10 years.
This indeed does not compute. Going to Cato to talk up Obama is like asking folks at a Synagogue or canvassing a black neighborhood in Baltimore to join the KKK.
Yeah?
When is that going to be?
So I can go put some Champagne on ice.
It would be good riddance to bad rubbish.
Hagel is:
A. not very smart so naturally his views are inconsistent.
B. a political whore who will go where ever.
C. irrelevant.
D. all of the above.
The only one who deserves mention is Lieberman, IMO. I don't agree with him on many issues but I respect him more than McCain!
I think Lieberman comes closest to being a "statesman" than anybody in congress today--he has integrity and class; why the Dems didn't vote for him!
It would be a bold move for Obama but the Dems would scream bloody murder because they want that spot for one of their own. Not to mention despite Hagel’s many problems he is also pro life. Most Dems who love abortion would be in open revolt. I guess you can already say they are revolting....
Would be a brilliant move by Obama’s handlers (not Obama, who is just Soros’ sock puppet). The uninformed would see it as a unity ticket, it would solidify the conservative bases’s low opinion of the Repugs, and it very well could result in a landslide win for the Obamanation.
Be afraid. Be very afraid.
I hope Obama *does* pick him. I’m not sure, but I think we’ve only had mixed tickets twice in our history, the first time with William Henry Harrison and John Tyler and the second with Abraham Lincoln and Andrew Johnson. Harrison died and Lincoln was asassinated. I won’t say anything else that will take me into unholy territory.
Not so strange. The Liberaltarian Party has a very broad streak of treachery and stupidity running through it. "The country be damned, at least we're pure" is what many of them think.
RINO alert! Hagel and McShame ... two losers.
These statements really tick me off. There isn't one problem we have right now that these jerks didn't cause.
I don’t know much about Hagel’s positions. But if The Pack Knight is right, then maybe there isn’t any reason to be afraid. On the contrary, maybe we should hope for an Obama Hagel win. See my post 21.
Sad but true, there current leader is a Bitter ex repub Bob Barr. This guy is seeking revenge aganst Bush and the RNC for not driving off his Repub prmary opponent who defeated him and went to win his for Congressional seat. So Bob joined forces with the ACLU to try to stop the War On terror in the courts just out of SPITE.
I'm puzzled. Is there any better definition of "drift" than "operating through consensus and bipartisanship"? That is, having no over-arching principle to guide you, but looking around constantly to see what everyone else thinks?
Gosh, is Hagel just a . . . jerk?
He may be completely illogical and narcissistic, but least he's weak on immigration, too.
Hagel is just one more McCain “Republican.”
How quickly people forget...
This makes no sense. Bush ticked off everyone - left and right - because he did his own thing with Iraq, compassionate conservatist crap, etc. Did he insist on consensus with dems on Iraq? On the other it is Obama who seeks consensus with terrorists.
They are not even pure anymore since the got Bob Barr as their nominee.
Hagel as Nobama 08’s running mate? I might be able to vote for Johnnie after all.
McCain, whatever his flaws, is a patriot and Hagel is a shameless Paulistinian surrender monkey.
Looks to me like he's just finally showing what color we've all known he is...
I'm not sure that $350 million "bridges to nowhere", "No Child Left Behind" and "Free Viagra for Seniors" are the high points of conservative and libertarian (small "L") philosophy -- but how does Hagel conclude that electing a Bolshevik could possibly be better????
Leading the way to tens of millions of illegal foreign nationals being made citizens, rewarded for their invasion.
What’s “patriotic” about that?
They won’t get there with my help.
Hagel is pro-life. Can you imagine the uproar if he were put on the ticket?
I cant see it happening. The RATS are having enough trouble with defectors mad about the way Hillary was treated.
I guess Hagel wasn’t as “conservative except for the War” as he claimed. Or else he would never consider running with a liberal.
On the other hand, they can have him. We don’t have any use for him.
That’s something, though in the 54 Presidential terms we’ve had to date, including the current one, only nine have seen the Vice President succeed to the Presidency. That’s a one in six chance.
A tenth term saw something similar as well and deserves mentioning. Wilson was an invalid for the last fifteen months of his Presidency, but this information was deliberately kept from the Vice President and Wilson’s wife essentially ran the executive branch. While modern communications and the 25th Amendment make this more difficult today, it’s not too hard to imagine Obama’s Cabinet refusing to declare Obama incapacitated if he suffers a similar illness if that would mean handing power over to a Republican Acting President.
In short, while I would certainly prefer Hagel a heartbeat from the Presidency than someone like Hillary Clinton or Jim Webb, it doesn’t seem like a great bet. Furthermore, I would certainly prefer any one of McCain’s potential VPs to Hagel as a potential President.
Mrs. Hagel has contributed to a Democrat before. Last August, she donated $250 to Niki Tsongas, a Democrat and widow of Sen. Paul Tsongas of Massachusetts who was running to fill a vacant House seat from the state.
In 1982 Lilibet met her future husband in Washington, D.C. She’d begun working as an intern for U.S. Rep. G.V. “Sonny” Montgomery in 1978 while she completed her master’s degree.
She intended to help out in Montgomery’s office for about six months and stayed for five years in the capacity of file clerk, then receptionist, then speech writer.
Montgomery, a Democrat from Meridian, represented Mississippi’s 3rd Congressional District for 30 years before his retirement in 1997. Montgomery died in Meridian on May 12.
Hagel was deputy administrator of the Veterans Administration during President Ronald Reagan’s administration. It was in that capacity Hagel worked closely with Montgomery and met Lilibet.
She serves on the board of trustees of the Meridian International Center, a non-profit institution that promotes international understanding through the exchange of people, ideas and the arts.
Established in 1960 and headquartered in Washington, D.C., the center offers a wide range of programs to educate people of all ages about global issues, to connect professionals from different countries, and to enrich the cultural perspectives of people throughout the United States and abroad.
In the mid-1980s (Chuck) Hagel co-founded Vanguard Cellular Systems Inc., that made him a millionaire several times over. Before his election to the U.S. Senate he was president of McCarthy & Co., an investment banking firm based in Omaha.
The Fourteenth Amendment requires equal protection of the law by states for all persons (not merely citizens).
This issue is over. Those who have lost (the border cult) simply have not mustered the sense to fall over. Conservatism itself is far more important than this reflexive distraction of bordermania. Babies, guns, marriage, taxes, military capability and utilization, punishment of street crime, property rights and a host of other issues are infinitely more important.
Show me how you can win on this AND obey the constitution. Be sure to take into consideration the probable presence of 25 million "illegals" and their quite legal children born here and the expense of enforcement. If foreign national POWS have a right to access to our courts according to SCOTUS run amok, don't you think that they will rule summarily for Pedro and Maria and their kids coming north not to attack our country but to become part of it for for a better life?
John McCain's service in the Hanoi Hilton trumps any complaints about his attempt to reconcile America to the immigration. That you disagree is unfortunate but I am not changing my mind on the subject as I suspect you are not changing yours. I am not a nativist even though my last immigrant ancestor arrived here about one years ago from England. Also, 50+ million abortions here have consequences. One is a desperate need for a major influx of replacements for the dead. We are accomplishing that by the usual method of legal gridlock. So be it. What is patriotic is what is good for our country. The immigration qualifies.
I have voted for your favored candidate (Alan Keyes) on an occasion or two in spite of his preachy and haranguing style. If you are honest with yourself, you know he will not be elected dogcatcher. That absolves those true to him from direct responsibility for governance. McCain may not be your cup of tea but it is McCain or Obama that will be elected. We can elect McCain with or without those who prefer to insist on an impossible perfection. We should be about the business of destroying Obama and most of us shall be doing just that.
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