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What Exactly is President Bush Doing About the Rise in Oil?(vanity)

Posted on 07/01/2008 8:44:59 AM PDT by Charles Bronson Forever

Does Bush really want us to drop into a deep recession? I have no idea why he has not issued an Executive Order and directed the lifting of the ban on drilling. I would think most American would support him. He should go before the nation and state his case. "Look, you wanna pay ten bucks a gallon? Do ya, punks!!!!"


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1 posted on 07/01/2008 8:44:59 AM PDT by Charles Bronson Forever
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To: Charles Bronson Forever

Why would Charles Bronson quote Clint Eastwood? Don’t you have your own lines?


2 posted on 07/01/2008 8:45:40 AM PDT by Ron Jeremy (sonic)
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To: Charles Bronson Forever

Do you have a death wish, n00b?


3 posted on 07/01/2008 8:46:14 AM PDT by library user (There's no sandwich like prawn sandwich.)
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To: Charles Bronson Forever; darkwing104; Old Sarge

IBTZ, just in case.


4 posted on 07/01/2008 8:46:49 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("Facts are stubborn things." –Ronald Reagan)
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To: Charles Bronson Forever
I have no idea why he has not issued an Executive Order and directed the lifting of the ban on drilling.

There are two separate bans - one involving an Executive Order and the other involving legislation. Getting rid of one won't help get rid of the other so it would be pointless for the President to unilaterally remove the Executive Order until Congress lifts its ban as well.

5 posted on 07/01/2008 8:47:29 AM PDT by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
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To: Charles Bronson Forever

Seems like he did already and Congress said no. Place the blame where it goes.


6 posted on 07/01/2008 8:48:27 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Charles Bronson Forever
A EO would be futile at this point with President Bush having only a few months left in office. For the most part, EOs expire at the end of a President's term unless renewed by the next President. An EO issued now would most likely not be renewed by either of our Presidential prospects. This would not be enough time for an oil company to really take any action, especially with the prospect that action would be overturned and cost them a lot to pull out. It would do little other than waste paper.
7 posted on 07/01/2008 8:48:46 AM PDT by mnehrling
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To: Ron Jeremy

Executive orders cannot countermand public law... It takes Congressional action. IOW, Bush cannot do what you suggest.


8 posted on 07/01/2008 8:49:04 AM PDT by Lucky Dog
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To: Charles Bronson Forever
He is waiting for the public pressure to mount beyond fever pitch when the Republicans can gather enough Rat votes to push all the energy bills through.

Remember....Congress never acts it alway reacts. We are awaiting the pressure to induce reaction.

9 posted on 07/01/2008 8:50:31 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Conservation? Let the NE Yankees freeze.... in the dark)
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To: Ron Jeremy

Isn’t Charles Bronson dead?


10 posted on 07/01/2008 8:51:29 AM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: Charles Bronson Forever

What are you doing to help out? Are you cutting demand by driving less?

It’s a two-way street, so to speak.


11 posted on 07/01/2008 8:52:03 AM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Charles Bronson Forever
Dangit! What the heck was the name of that Bronson movie where he was hired to helicopter a prisoner out of Mexico? There was a neat scene in it where, at the end, the bad guy gets it from a plane's propeller.
12 posted on 07/01/2008 8:52:12 AM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: CindyDawg
48% OF AMERICANS THINK REPUBLICANS STILL CONTROL CONGRESS!!!!! ... according to a recent poll.

Thanks, MSM.

Well, to be honest, it's not totally the MSM's fault, because people need to educate themselves about government online or elsewhere. That way they'd know what's going on and why.

Just easier to (wrongly) assume Republicans are in charge, I suppose...

13 posted on 07/01/2008 8:52:12 AM PDT by library user (There's no sandwich like prawn sandwich.)
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To: Charles Bronson Forever

Just in case IBTZ


14 posted on 07/01/2008 8:52:47 AM PDT by Danae (Remember: Obama = Pull out from Iraq. PLAN on voting, or accept responsibility for the consequences.)
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To: Charles Bronson Forever

> What Exactly is President Bush Doing About the Rise in Oil?

I suspect he is maintaining a perfectly hedged position, selling US dollars and buying Euro futures, and short-selling sweet crude in US dollars on the spot market and buying sweet crude futures in Euros to cover his exposures...

...Heck, I dunno — I just made that up. What kind of question is that? Of course Bush, being an oil-man, will be making just as much money out of the rise in Oil as he possibly can. He can’t help doing that: that’s how he keeps his millions of dollars. He’s a businessman and not as dumb as most people make out.


15 posted on 07/01/2008 8:52:48 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Charles Bronson Forever

Until the Democrats allow drilling, he can’t do anything.

What are the Democrats doing?


16 posted on 07/01/2008 8:53:24 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: library user

Yep. We need to spread the word...The DEMOCRATIC Congress.


17 posted on 07/01/2008 8:54:20 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Charles Bronson Forever
Wah. Wah. Wah. It's called a market. What, exactly, is the president going to do? Increase supply? Dims won't let him. Decraese wolrd demand, like in China? How? Suck it up. Oil has been cheap for 75 years, it's just now getting to where it SHOULD be.
18 posted on 07/01/2008 8:55:20 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (McCain is the best candidate of the Democrat party.)
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To: Charles Bronson Forever
[ Does Bush really want us to drop into a deep recession? I have no idea why he has not issued an Executive Order and directed the lifting of the ban on drilling. ]

Because he is a globalist.. you know, like Obama, Hillary and John McLaim..
The globalists are picking the bones on the American carcase..

You know, tax the oil companys which tax will be passed on to the retail purchaser as always..

The price of crude oil(refined and unrefined) has become A TAX...
No not a just a tax... BUT a VALUE ADDED TAX(VAT)...

19 posted on 07/01/2008 8:55:48 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Charles Bronson Forever
I have no idea why he has not issued an Executive Order

He has not issued the executive order because he is just using the issue as political ammunition instead of actually trying to solve it. Anyone could see that the price was going to go way up as early as 2002. There have been threads about it here even longer than that. He has had plenty of time to act on this and has not done so.
20 posted on 07/01/2008 8:56:34 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: Charles Bronson Forever

President Bush can lift the executive order on the offshore drilling ban but it’s symbolic. Congress passed the ban into U.S. law. Congress needs to lift the ban and that will take Democrats to agree on lifting the ban.


21 posted on 07/01/2008 8:56:39 AM PDT by avacado
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To: TheThirdRuffian
Oil has been cheap for 75 years, it's just now getting to where it SHOULD be.

That's pretty funny.
22 posted on 07/01/2008 8:57:42 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: Charles Bronson Forever

well odumbo believes that the price is right as long as it increases slowly,what a buffoon


23 posted on 07/01/2008 8:57:53 AM PDT by italianquaker
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To: Gumdrop
Isn’t Charles Bronson dead?

Nobody had the nerve to tell him..............

25 posted on 07/01/2008 9:00:06 AM PDT by Red Badger (If we drill deep enough, we can reach the Saudi oil fields from THIS side..........)
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To: Types_with_Fist

Breakout.


26 posted on 07/01/2008 9:00:56 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: mysterio

Bush is not a dictator. Snapping your fingers does not make it so.


27 posted on 07/01/2008 9:01:20 AM PDT by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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To: CindyDawg
No, not Democratic Congress ... DEMOCRAT CONGRESS.

There's no "ic."

28 posted on 07/01/2008 9:01:24 AM PDT by library user (There's no sandwich like prawn sandwich.)
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To: mysterio

It’s the truth.

The Saudis have been dumping oil on the market for years, with the express purpose of keeping the price low depressing competition.

Oil is now, even with dramatically increased worldwide consumption and not huge increases in supply, not much more than it was in the 1950s (adjusted for inflation).


29 posted on 07/01/2008 9:01:46 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (McCain is the best candidate of the Democrat party.)
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To: Charles Bronson Forever
Why would he do anything? Gas prices are a result of the free market supply and demand economics.

Bush is part of the government which should have nothing to do with business.
30 posted on 07/01/2008 9:01:50 AM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: Charles Bronson Forever

Put down the bong and step away from the computer.


31 posted on 07/01/2008 9:02:42 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (This tagline is completely naked - STOP STARING!)
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To: garbanzo

So neither one will do anything until the other one does something first?


32 posted on 07/01/2008 9:03:19 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: Charles Bronson Forever

The Pres knows a lot more about oil than you do. You might try to read his mind, but he has already read yours.


33 posted on 07/01/2008 9:03:29 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: Charles Bronson Forever

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPch2k63uj4

The guy probably doesn’t know that the continuous rise of oil prices and the unwillingness of Congress to allow major oil development on the homefront is all a intentional plan to take America down.

It is all part of the globalisation effort to force America in line with the 2nd and 3rd world nations. America’s greatness has become an eyesore to our liberal congressmen.


34 posted on 07/01/2008 9:03:43 AM PDT by 353FMG (What marxism and fascism could not destroy, liberalism did.)
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To: Lucky Dog
[ Executive orders cannot countermand public law... ]

Ever hear of the bully pulpit?..
Not a word from Bush, not a peep..
When he could hang the NO DRILL by demos and Rinos around their necks like a millstone..

He could make them a laughing stock, EASILY.. He doesn't..
WHY Not?.. Both Bush and Cheney are oil men..
They KNOW what to do, but WILL NOT...

WHY not?... BUZZZZ. to late..

Because he don't WANT TO make them appear rididulous..
WHY?... Simply... he is complicit..

35 posted on 07/01/2008 9:04:01 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: CindyDawg; Charles Bronson Forever
Seems like he did already and Congress said no. Place the blame where it goes.

Exactly. Charles Bronson Forever see my tagline. It's San Fran Nan and Dingy Harry's fault. You really want to tick off liberals, make a bumper sticker that says:

LIKE THE $4.OO GAS?
THANK A democrat.

Get ready for the "one finger salute" when you are in the liberal neighborhoods.

36 posted on 07/01/2008 9:04:25 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (A vote for any Democrat from BO on down the ticket is a vote for $10 a gallon gas.)
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To: Charles Bronson Forever

The real question is what the hell are you doing to make Democraps start drilling? Bush went to war for oil (according the the ‘craps) as well as wanted to open ANWAR.


37 posted on 07/01/2008 9:04:26 AM PDT by Bommer (A Third Party can win when Republicans and Democraps stand for the same thing!)
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To: garbanzo
Getting rid of one won't help get rid of the other...

But this is the world of politics, not necessarily reason.

If there is an EO against drilling, it should be removed. That in of itself will generate news, occupy a news cycle or two, and events could trigger from that. If there are two obstacles, where one of them is easily changed, then it should be changed so that all the pressure falls on the remaining obstacle. In addition, more news on this issue is better, and helps candidates that have it as an active issue. It also energizes a segment of the public more likely to vote Pub.

38 posted on 07/01/2008 9:04:35 AM PDT by C210N (The television has mounted the most serious assault on Republicanism since Das Kapital.)
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To: library user

Sorry. FR doesn’t have 100% of my concentration right now :’)


39 posted on 07/01/2008 9:04:45 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Brilliant

Probably waiting for the president to do something.


40 posted on 07/01/2008 9:05:04 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: hosepipe

Of course not. He has been railing about the Rats no drill policy for weeks.

He is waiting for the pressure to blow it all up and then there can be action


42 posted on 07/01/2008 9:05:40 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Conservation? Let the NE Yankees freeze.... in the dark)
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To: pacpam
Bush is not a dictator. Snapping your fingers does not make it so.

He should rescind the order and start the ball rolling. Then he can really blame the dems for not drilling.
43 posted on 07/01/2008 9:06:21 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: Charles Bronson Forever
have no idea why he has not issued an Executive Order and directed the lifting of the ban on drilling

Is it Constitutional to do so? If he does it and it is not Constitutional the Supreme Court will overturn his decision in a second. So I ask again is it Constitutional? Hopefully someone on this forum with knowledge of this will answer.

44 posted on 07/01/2008 9:06:26 AM PDT by jveritas (God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
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To: Charles Bronson Forever

Uh, call your Congress critters. There are no leaders ‘cept for the People.


45 posted on 07/01/2008 9:08:08 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Huma for co-president! (it ain't over 'til it's over))
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To: Brilliant
What are the Democrats doing?

Haven't you read the news?
We can't drill our way out of this mess!
We must go with hat in hand to the middle east and then find Earth friendly alternative resources!

Seriously, how ashamed our forefathers would be to see us be so dependent on foreign sources when we could be self sufficient.
I am aghast at the mindset that would allow us to come to this.
46 posted on 07/01/2008 9:08:09 AM PDT by MaryFromMichigan
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To: Arrowhead1952

I want one of those but it must be removable. It wouldn’t be good to leave my truck unattended with one on, around here.


47 posted on 07/01/2008 9:08:26 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Arrowhead1952

I want one of those but it must be removable. It wouldn’t be good to leave my truck unattended with one on, around here.


48 posted on 07/01/2008 9:08:29 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Arrowhead1952

I want one of those but it must be removable. It wouldn’t be good to leave my truck unattended with one on, around here.


49 posted on 07/01/2008 9:08:29 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: daddy

50 posted on 07/01/2008 9:08:34 AM PDT by evets (beer)
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