Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Bush to Close Guantanamo?
abcnews.com ^ | July 02, 2008 | Jan Crawford Greenburg

Posted on 07/02/2008 5:26:13 PM PDT by kellynla

President Bush will soon decide whether to close Guantanamo Bay as a prison for al-Qaeda suspects, sources tell ABC News. High-level discussions among top advisers have escalated in the past week, with the most senior administration officials in continuous talks about the future of the prison camp at Guantanamo Bay--and how it will be dramatically changed and/or closed in the wake of the Supreme Court's ruling that gave detainees there access to federal courts.

Sources have confirmed that President Bush is expected to be briefed on these pressing GTMO issues--and may reach a decision on the future of the naval base as a prison for al Qaeda suspects--before he leaves for the G8 on Saturday. An announcement, however, is not expected before he leaves the country.

High-level administration officials say the Court's decision dramatically changes the legal landscape--and raises questions about whether the government has solid evidence to present to federal judges to justify ongoing detentions.

That evidence, much of it classified and obtained by military and CIA personnel on the battlefield, is not the standard kind of proof judges are accustomed to seeing in regular criminal cases here, administration officials say. The documents do not contain the kind of detail—or include sources of that information—that’s typical in criminal cases, sources say.

Late last month for example, a federal appeals court in Washington said the government failed to prove its case with one detainee from China. The administration fears that's a sign of things to come—in light of the Supreme Court’s ruling giving other detainees even broader habeas corpus rights to challenge their detentions in court, sources tell ABC News.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.abcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: bush; enemycombatant; gitmo; guantanamo; terrorists; wot
Well McCain wants to move the terrorists from Gitmo to Leavenworth...lets hope & pray that McCain changes his mind on that issue too!
1 posted on 07/02/2008 5:26:13 PM PDT by kellynla
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: kellynla

FWIW, The chairman of the JCS wants it closed too.


2 posted on 07/02/2008 5:27:26 PM PDT by Perdogg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

Why not just ‘release’ them all into the ocean? They’re on an island, fer Pete’s Sake. Let ‘em swim back to their homeland!

(I know. I’m so mean.) ;)


3 posted on 07/02/2008 5:29:07 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Perdogg

He should and release every damn one of them into districts controlled by Democrats. Anfd give them a hunting knife as they go out the door.


4 posted on 07/02/2008 5:30:28 PM PDT by sport
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Perdogg

JCS ?


5 posted on 07/02/2008 5:30:38 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin

Same idea....release em from 12,000 feet MSL !


6 posted on 07/02/2008 5:30:47 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

Probably best to close the whole Gitmo can of worms before the election and air drop all the current residents in Northern Pakistan.


7 posted on 07/02/2008 5:32:33 PM PDT by OCC
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin

“Why not just ‘release’ them all into the ocean? “

I’d suggest - release half of ‘em in San Francisco and the other half in Boston.


8 posted on 07/02/2008 5:33:47 PM PDT by eCSMaster
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

Joint Chiefs of Staff


9 posted on 07/02/2008 5:36:25 PM PDT by Perdogg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin

Just do a mild refit on one of the old ships laid up in the ex-Philadelphia Navy Yard, pack all these scum on board, then have it towed around in circles in the mid-Atlantic.


10 posted on 07/02/2008 5:44:01 PM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (QMC(SW) USN........ CG21 DD988 FFG34 PC6 ARS53)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

President “Appease the Liberals” Bush will close Guantanamo so the liberals will like him after his term ends next January.


11 posted on 07/02/2008 5:45:43 PM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Perdogg
Yea, well let me know where the JCS propose to move the incarcerated terrorists in Gitmo after they close it. gezzzzzzzzzzzzz...
12 posted on 07/02/2008 5:45:50 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: kellynla
I like the Navy solution...


13 posted on 07/02/2008 5:46:06 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Virginia Ridgerunner

I love it! BIG SMILE


14 posted on 07/02/2008 5:51:03 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

Creep supreme court judges, will allow these animals protection under US law with the help of the Liberal skunks in congress and the ACLU. What a mess! Are we alone out here? Have we given up on America?


15 posted on 07/02/2008 5:51:31 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (IF YOU ARE NOT CONSERVATIVE BY 35 YOU HAVE NO BRAIN. W CHURCHILL)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

Send them to Poland and Slovenia.

They love kicking them around. (or so I have read)


16 posted on 07/02/2008 5:53:51 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin

“Why not just ‘release’ them all into the ocean? They’re on an island, fer Pete’s Sake. Let ‘em swim back to their homeland!”

It’s a good plan. If Allah intends for them to survive the swim, so be it. Only 98 miles to Haiti...... Not the most benign current in the slot.......


17 posted on 07/02/2008 5:59:03 PM PDT by roaddog727 (BS does not get bridges built - the funk you see is the funk you do)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

I would hang ten a day until they were all gone.


18 posted on 07/02/2008 6:00:55 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Cut the birth certificate crap! It's the communism, stupid!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

Is there going to be anything to cheer about this year?

Evidently not.


19 posted on 07/02/2008 6:03:19 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ( I say no to the Hillary Clinton wing of the Republican party. Not now or ever, John McCain...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin

You ARE mean, Diana. A catapult would get them there so much faster!


20 posted on 07/02/2008 6:18:26 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom ("My advice: Quit supporting the party that is symbolized by an ass." Ted Nugent)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

I don’t know the practical military aspects of the debate over the usefullness of Gitmo, but close it, and on the PR side, it will be seen by the left and their mouthpieces in the MSM as an admission that whatever happened there was somehow wrong or shameful.

I can hear the MSM commentators now talking about how Bush only years later recognized the “mistake” and is close this “shameful chapter.”

If it is a necessity, then keep it open and explain clearly why it is needed.


21 posted on 07/02/2008 6:23:14 PM PDT by PGR88
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: roaddog727
Permanently dye them fluorescent orange and release them in Irag. If seen doing nasty things - shot them dead. END of Problem.
22 posted on 07/02/2008 6:24:12 PM PDT by TNoldman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

March them into Congress and release them.


23 posted on 07/02/2008 6:40:02 PM PDT by Gator113 (Drill here, drill now...... or die.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

Bush just needs to do whatever McCain wants.


24 posted on 07/02/2008 6:44:39 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

In a perverse sort of way, sticking some of those guys in the tougher cells of Leavenworth might be a real eye opener for the terrorists. I can just hear the lefty bed wetters whining even more about the difficult conditions in a maximum security prison, where looking over your shoulder and gang affiliation are a way of life.


25 posted on 07/02/2008 6:46:57 PM PDT by irish guard
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: irish guard

“In a perverse sort of way, sticking some of those guys in the tougher cells of Leavenworth”

bringing these terrorist to America would be a security NIGHTMARE! Plus the ACLU would be there ASAP trying to do all they could to get them b...a...i...l and all the rights of an American citizen!

They’re exactly where they need to be before they are tried, convicted and executed!

next...


26 posted on 07/02/2008 6:52:12 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: Jim Noble

Electric bleachers—solve it in one pull.


27 posted on 07/02/2008 6:55:16 PM PDT by Snoopers-868th
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: irish guard

I forgot to mention, that we already have 300K foreigners incarcerated in prisons throughout America now.
And we’re starting to deport them as we speak.

There is absolutely no reason why Americans should have to pay to incarcerate other countries’ criminals; especially when we have hundreds of thousands of AMERICAN criminals who should be behind bars!!!


28 posted on 07/02/2008 6:55:49 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

Well McCain wants to move the terrorists from Gitmo to Leavenworth...lets hope & pray that McCain changes his mind on that issue too!


LOL! If he’d just change his mind on taxes, drilling in ANWR, free speech, amnesty, global warming, all the Christian leaders he’s ever met, the Swift Boat Vets, Barack’s middle name.... Well, he’d be Fred Thompson or Bobby Jindal and worth voting for.


29 posted on 07/02/2008 7:17:49 PM PDT by PaleoBob
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Diana in Wisconsin

Why not just ‘release’ them all into the ocean? They’re on an island, fer Pete’s Sake. Let ‘em swim back to their homeland!

(I know. I’m so mean.) ;)


You could just say they were all shot trying to escape and then close the place for being too dangerous for jihadis. You know, the humanitarian play.


30 posted on 07/02/2008 7:19:47 PM PDT by PaleoBob
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

sources tell ABC news. Hmm, what sources? I think the whole article is baloney


31 posted on 07/02/2008 7:25:48 PM PDT by Kaslin (Vote Democrat if you like high gas prices at the pump)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Perdogg

With the SC meddling, the place might as well be closed. And no further prisoners should be taken. They will only cost billions more in legal expenses and clog up the court system. We will probably have to figure out how to fight our wars with proxy troops in the future as this Habeas Corpus ruling now subjects all of our troops’ actions to judicial second guessing and just about requires that every troop clear every act with a lawyer before he pulls the trigger or grestrains a suspected enemy. Habeas Corpus in war applied to the enemy has huge and probably crippling and ultimately fatal ramifications for the existence of the United States.”The Constitution is not a suicide pact,” but the Supreme court’s word is. The other two branches have surrendered their partnership in the government to the judges.


32 posted on 07/02/2008 7:55:48 PM PDT by arthurus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: ronnie raygun

This ruling will work its way into the field in Iraq and Afghanistan. Foreigners on foreign soil under the control of the US military must be treated as American citizens in Poughkeepsie.That means trials and convictions for “excessive use of force,” and the whole panoply of domestic law. Ultimately every shot fired in Iraq must give rise to a Trial in a Court. The USSC decision seems less obnoxious than that but the ACLU is not involved yet but is surely working feverishly on it and the 9th Circus is not involved yet.


33 posted on 07/02/2008 8:03:10 PM PDT by arthurus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: irish guard

They would merge right into the Moslem gang there.


34 posted on 07/02/2008 8:05:42 PM PDT by arthurus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

I think Bush should make the announcement that each prisoner there has been extremely helpful in providing us intelligence to prosecute the WOT, so in exchange for their cooperation, we are releasing them back to their country. We will give detailed press releases to Al Jezera on the names of each prisoner (all of them) that were most cooperative.


35 posted on 07/03/2008 7:59:00 AM PDT by 1L
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kellynla

Release them into the tender mercies of Cuba just like Castro did to us.


36 posted on 07/03/2008 4:47:46 PM PDT by shove_it (and have a nice day)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson