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Obama Might ‘Refine’ Iraq Timeline (Liar Obama throws all anti-war folks under the bus)
NY Times ^ | 7/3/2008 | Jeff Zeleny

Posted on 07/03/2008 2:29:25 PM PDT by tobyhill

FARGO, N.D. – Senator Barack Obama said Thursday the United States cannot sustain a long-term military presence in Iraq, but added that he would be open to “refine my policies” about a timeline for withdrawing troops after meeting with American military commanders during a trip to Iraq later this month. Mr. Obama, whose popularity in the Democratic primary was built upon a sharp opposition to the war and an often-touted 16-month gradual timetable for removing combat troops, dismissed suggestions that he was changing positions in the wake of reductions in violence in Iraq and a general election fight with Senator John McCain. “I’ve always said that the pace of withdrawal would be dictated by the safety and security of our troops and the need to maintain stability. That assessment has not changed,” he said. “And when I go to Iraq and have a chance to talk to some of the commanders on the ground, I’m sure I’ll have more information and will continue to refine my policies.”

(Excerpt) Read more at thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: barackobama; flipflop; foreignpolicy; iraq; nobama08; obama; obamatruthfile; wot

1 posted on 07/03/2008 2:29:26 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

was he against the refined time line before he was for it? Seems his Dem friends are teaching him the flip flop way.


2 posted on 07/03/2008 2:33:44 PM PDT by oust the louse (Terrorists are salivating over an Obama White House.)
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To: tobyhill; AliVeritas; holdonnow

It’s over ... we’ve won in Iraq.
Can Keith Overbite be far behind?


3 posted on 07/03/2008 2:34:32 PM PDT by sono (It's a shame the Republicans took a pass on nominating a candidate for President this year.)
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To: tobyhill

“(Liar Obama throws all anti-war folks under the bus)”

And the MSM will never call him on it, least of all the NYT. Obama only has a shot because his dirty past and dubious ancestry will never see the light of day.


4 posted on 07/03/2008 2:35:47 PM PDT by Spok (Liberty lives only in proportion to wholesome restraint.)
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To: tobyhill

O boy, this surprises me, he has never flipped and flopped before!!!


5 posted on 07/03/2008 2:36:29 PM PDT by PORD (People...Of Right Do)
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To: tobyhill
Obama is a complete fraud and charlatan. In addition to being a militant anti-American and abject marxist.

Amen and spot on to you both.

IN A TIME OF WAR JOHN MCCAIN SERVED AND SUFFERED FOR HIS COUNTRY.



WHILE BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA SERVED HIMSELF...AND STILL DOES.

BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA - CHANGE YOU CAN COUNT ON, BUT DON'T WANT

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA


NOBAMA '08 SIGHTED IN EMMETT, ID, JULY 2ND, 2008

6 posted on 07/03/2008 2:37:03 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: sono
Olbermann is probably on the defibrillator right now.
7 posted on 07/03/2008 2:38:34 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: Jeff Head

great post!


8 posted on 07/03/2008 2:39:02 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: Spok

They won’t have a choice to ignore it after he goes to Iraq then ask him what he thought.


9 posted on 07/03/2008 2:40:56 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: tobyhill
What will happen to the idiot children of Hamlin town when the Pied Piper stops piping? We may soon find out.
10 posted on 07/03/2008 2:41:54 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: tobyhill
Obama Might ‘Refine’ Iraq Timeline (Liar Obama throws all anti-war folks under the bus)

With all due respect, that is not lying.
He's a politician!
He's also a "progressive" (I think).
He's also a muslim (I'm sure).

Now, the prime directive in "progressive" politics is:

1. Get elected (whatever it takes).
2. Implement the agenda.

NEVER THE REVERSE

Got that?
It's not rocket science.

11 posted on 07/03/2008 2:42:20 PM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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To: PORD
This is huge. There were only two reasons the Rats gained the majority. The first was gas price which only got worse when they took office and the second was Iraq which Obama just took any advantage he may have had on it off the table.
12 posted on 07/03/2008 2:43:58 PM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: tobyhill

He ain`t stupid. He knows things are improving. If he`s elected and things continue to improve, he will try to take credit for all of it.


13 posted on 07/03/2008 2:44:17 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: tobyhill

Darn... we can’t say Flip-Flop any can we?


14 posted on 07/03/2008 2:45:25 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: chessplayer
He ain`t stupid. He knows things are improving. If he`s elected and things continue to improve, he will try to take credit for all of it.

Things have been improving for a while now... Not that you'd ever hear that from the MSM.

15 posted on 07/03/2008 2:47:07 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: tobyhill

The used car salesman strikes again as he starts his run to the middle for the general.

The middle of Lenin that is.


16 posted on 07/03/2008 2:47:27 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Been here before)
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To: tobyhill

Daddy $oro$ ain’t goin to be happy bout this!

Pray for W and Our Victorious Troops


17 posted on 07/03/2008 2:49:14 PM PDT by bray (Drill Congress!!!)
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To: coconutt2000

No but we can say

BHO...CHANGE IS COMING,JUST WAIT A FEW MINUTES.


18 posted on 07/03/2008 2:49:41 PM PDT by Texas4ever (Anything off the dollar menu :))
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To: chessplayer

Everything with BHO is calculated.

He will use this and our troops to his advantage.

Time to cross the fingers in pictures with BHO like they did with Hillary.

(Please post if you can find it)


19 posted on 07/03/2008 2:51:54 PM PDT by Texas4ever (Anything off the dollar menu :))
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To: Jeff Head

oh oh I want one!!!

How do I get the NOBAMA sticker?


20 posted on 07/03/2008 2:52:43 PM PDT by Texas4ever (Anything off the dollar menu :))
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To: tobyhill; All

Barak Obama: The mother of all Flip Floppers...


21 posted on 07/03/2008 2:53:34 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Barak Obama: The Candidate of Clarification)
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To: shrinkermd

Thanks. There needs to be clear distinction...and the images of McCain’s service and suffering when he was a young man contrasted against Obama dope smoking, self serving are very starki.


22 posted on 07/03/2008 2:53:38 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: tobyhill

My fantasy would be that the military commanders completely ignore him.


23 posted on 07/03/2008 2:56:41 PM PDT by Gator113 (Drill here, drill now...... or die.)
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To: bray

Soros knows that this is all BS.

Every dem pretends they are moderate before the election. Kerry was ultraliberal, and then he was asking “Can I git me huntin license here?”.

The dems honestly think we are all stupid. The try courting Christians every time around, but how many Christians are stupid enough to fall for this? How could any Christian truly believe that a guy who would kill a child outside the womb could truly believe in Jesus?

They try to act like they support gun rights, but how many gunners actually believe this? Hell, many liberals are pro gun, and the 5% that aren’t delusional don’t even believe that the dems aren’t there to try to take away your gun rights.

I’d bet that even the Code pinkos know that this is just play acting.


24 posted on 07/03/2008 3:01:17 PM PDT by xmission (Democrats have killed our Soldiers by rewarding the enemy for brutality)
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To: tobyhill

If McCain doesnt take this in and destroy Obama with his own words...he is not very good at taking command...

in theory his enemy has just given him a weak point....now what will he do?

If Karl Rove has anything to do with it...You will see the side we have been waiting for....Lock and Load!!


25 posted on 07/03/2008 3:05:00 PM PDT by Texas4ever (Anything off the dollar menu :))
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To: xmission

We will see how the Commie Pinkos treat this. My guess is those old hags are going ballistic right now. Going to be hard for them to accept we have won this war and he knows it.

Pray for W and Our Victory Soldiers


26 posted on 07/03/2008 3:06:27 PM PDT by bray (Drill Congress!!!)
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To: bray
We will see how the Commie Pinkos treat this. My guess is those old hags are going ballistic right now.

You know, on second thought I should have said that their leaders know. The rank and file useful idiot are probably pissing themselves.

Going to be hard for them to accept we have won this war and he knows it.

You think they'll ever admit it? If we don't somehow get a grip on what is taught in history class in this country, our kids may never know that we won.
27 posted on 07/03/2008 3:15:21 PM PDT by xmission (Democrats have killed our Soldiers by rewarding the enemy for brutality)
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To: xmission
"Every dem pretends they are moderate before the election. Kerry was ultraliberal, and then he was asking “Can I git me huntin license here?”".

LOL. Yup, that's what they do. btw, does anyone know if Jon Carry has ever been hunting again since '04? Does he still looooooove to hunt and eat dooooooooove?

I thought that was one of his great passions in life, but, funny, I haven't read about any Jon Carry hunting trips since the '04 campaign.
28 posted on 07/03/2008 3:18:17 PM PDT by Enchante (OBAMA: "That's not the Wesley Clark I knew!")
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To: Enchante

I love the pick of Kerry with his finger on the trigger posing for the camera... He’s looking at a right angle towards the camera, with his finger on the trigger, and the gun pointing in another direction. Evidently they couldn’t teach him anything in the military, or in charm school.


29 posted on 07/03/2008 3:33:52 PM PDT by xmission (Democrats have killed our Soldiers by rewarding the enemy for brutality)
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To: tobyhill
Is this a flop or a flip or a floppity flop?

"You can be sure there will never be any clear answers from Obama on any critical issue. He is quite comfortable taking positions that contradict each other. Sadly, his inconsistent and dishonest positions are perfectly acceptable to his Obamabot cult members, who blindly follow him."

Instead of the change candidate, Hussein ObamaMessiaHamas, will be known as the Ooops Uh Flip-Flop Candidate, who couldn't tell the truth! Is this a flop or a flip or a floppity flop?

Quit your whining about my Flip Flops, Waffling and Lies, you God Loving, Gun owning and Bitter White Racist Patriots!


30 posted on 07/03/2008 4:04:22 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (America's Mugabe, the Obamination.will bring Mugabe Change to America!)
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To: Texas4ever
You inspired me to do a graphic:
31 posted on 07/03/2008 4:15:26 PM PDT by aphid
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To: bray
Agreed.

Obama can obviously now afford to tell Daily Kos, MoveOn, and all the other lunatic democrats to go pound sand.

Why? Because he already has their money!

Obama realized long ago just how worthless and disruptive Daily Kos and his pals are to any run for office. He baited them along, grabbed all of their cashola and is now turning against them in order to accomodate the Hillary "centrist" crowd.

Soros might allow Obama some leniency if he thinks such a "centrist" move will gain victory in November, but the nasties that are in Obama's nut roots programs have been sucker-punched.

"Thanks, Kos Kidz. I got your money, and I am gonna get even more of your money once I tax you all into oblivion. LOSERS!!!!"


32 posted on 07/03/2008 4:22:55 PM PDT by Prole (Pray for the families of Chris and Channon.)
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To: tobyhill

Amateur hour. He wants to be president and still doesn’t have enough information (or backbone) to take a policy position on Iraq? No, no; it has to be “refined.” McCain, on the other hand, for all his flaws, has always had one position: WIN.


33 posted on 07/03/2008 5:04:56 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: aphid

Awesome!!!

This should be the cover of TIME...lol


34 posted on 07/03/2008 5:28:37 PM PDT by Texas4ever (Anything off the dollar menu :))
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To: aphid

There are numerous threads about his flip flop!!!

Please post this picture. This says it all.

I am using it as my computer screensaver.


35 posted on 07/03/2008 5:34:16 PM PDT by Texas4ever (Anything off the dollar menu :))
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To: tobyhill

36 posted on 07/03/2008 5:38:59 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Jeff Head; antonius
No change, no hope for the children either. Obama doesn't care!


37 posted on 07/03/2008 5:40:36 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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