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US 'pregnant man' has baby girl
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7488894.stm ^

Posted on 07/03/2008 6:34:43 PM PDT by traumer

An American man who was born female but underwent gender realignment surgery, has given birth to a female baby, US media have reported.

Thomas Beatie, 34, is legally male but kept his female reproductive organs after having breast surgery to remove glands and flatten his chest.

Both Mr Beatie and his daughter are reported to be doing well in a hospital in Bend, Oregon.

He was inseminated using sperm from an anonymous donor.

The birth was natural, a source at St Charles Medical Center in Bend told ABC News, and took place on Sunday.

According to some reports, Mr Beatie had had a Caesarean section.

Former model

Mr Beatie, who sports a wispy beard, made headlines around the world when he revealed in April that he was pregnant.

He told chat show host Oprah Winfrey it had been his dream to one day have a child.

"I opted not to do anything with my reproductive organs because I wanted to have a child one day," he said.

Mr Beatie grew up in Hawaii as Tracy Lagondin and was a Girl Scout, model and finalist in a teenage beauty pageant.

He began to live as a man when he was in his 20s and officially changed his gender, he told People magazine.

He has been married for five years to wife Nancy.

Mr Beatie's obstetrician, Dr Kimberly James, told Oprah Winfrey in April: "This baby is totally healthy. This is what I consider a normal pregnancy."


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: freak; heisstillawoman; homosexualagenda

1 posted on 07/03/2008 6:34:43 PM PDT by traumer
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To: traumer

Good. Now this sick story can be put to rest.


2 posted on 07/03/2008 6:36:01 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: traumer
I hope this is the LAST one and that the media will stop...
3 posted on 07/03/2008 6:36:31 PM PDT by traumer
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To: traumer

What a sick society we live in. Reminds me of Rome and it fell.


4 posted on 07/03/2008 6:37:02 PM PDT by dixie sass
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To: traumer
Irrespective of how this woman had doctors mutilate her, and irrespective of what foolish legal titles may confer...she was a woman and is a woman.

This poor, wretched, misguided, and confused "woman" had a baby girl. God protect that baby girl and help her find a home where normaalcy might be established in her life.

5 posted on 07/03/2008 6:37:35 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: traumer

Mutilated, hairy woman gives birth.


6 posted on 07/03/2008 6:37:56 PM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: traumer

When Emir Obama al-Husseini I and Charles Mohammed I form an Anglo-America Muslim caliphate, we can look back on sick stories like this to trace the beginnings of the destruction of the West.


7 posted on 07/03/2008 6:38:29 PM PDT by montag813
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To: traumer
He was inseminated using sperm from an anonymous donor.

Yeah, I'm imagining that would be about the only possible way....

8 posted on 07/03/2008 6:38:38 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (Seriously, is freedom so complicated?)
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To: traumer

Lets see, a person born female has a baby as an adult.....ok...and?


9 posted on 07/03/2008 6:39:28 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Barack's mesmerizing speeches are little more than oratory Three Card Monte)
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To: traumer
The birth was natural...

This is SO not true...

10 posted on 07/03/2008 6:39:30 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (Seriously, is freedom so complicated?)
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To: traumer
This is what I consider a normal pregnancy."

I'm sorry, but there ain't nothing NORMAL about it!!!

11 posted on 07/03/2008 6:39:46 PM PDT by alicewonders (I'm a conservative, and I'm hated by the GOP & the Dems - I must be doing something right!)
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To: traumer

They’d better check that baby very carefully. My MD told me the male hormones she was taking while pregnant can cause serious side effects and more frequent than normal risks of defects for the baby, often involving the genitals or reproductive system.


12 posted on 07/03/2008 6:40:42 PM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813

If the child is deformed we’ll never know. The media has taken this story where they wanted it to go and that doesn’t include any follow up which would spoil their ‘feel good’ happy ending.


13 posted on 07/03/2008 6:50:51 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: alicewonders

This is what I consider a normal pregnancy.
“I’m sorry, but there ain’t nothing NORMAL about it!!”

Amen, Sister!


14 posted on 07/03/2008 6:50:59 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: traumer

As a person who is strongly Pro-Life, I cannot object and wish them well.


15 posted on 07/03/2008 6:51:31 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: traumer
not a man, never was a man. She was born a woman and will die a woman no matter how many times the MSM portrays her as a man.
16 posted on 07/03/2008 6:54:03 PM PDT by martinidon
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To: traumer

Barf alert candidate.


17 posted on 07/03/2008 6:55:53 PM PDT by madison10
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To: traumer
Thomas Beatie, 34, is legally male but kept his female reproductive organs after having breast surgery to remove glands and flatten his chest.

And what screwball court legally made him a male? This world has gone upside down. Lord please help that innocent baby girl.....

18 posted on 07/03/2008 7:02:04 PM PDT by eeriegeno
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To: Jet Jaguar

“He was inseminated using sperm from an anonymous donor.

“The birth was natural...”


What to say?


19 posted on 07/03/2008 7:03:17 PM PDT by Birmingham Rain
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To: traumer
I wonder who mommy will be? These two misguided people will be living separate lives within a year. Then it will be a custody battle and the poor child will end up having 4 mommies after 2 years. I have personally seen it happen twice here in Kalifornia.
20 posted on 07/03/2008 7:05:56 PM PDT by vets son
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To: traumer
I wonder who mommy will be? These two misguided people will be living separate lives within a year. Then it will be a custody battle and the poor child will end up having 4 mommies after 2 years. I have personally seen it happen twice here in Kalifornia.
21 posted on 07/03/2008 7:05:59 PM PDT by vets son
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To: traumer
That's not a man. It has an X Chromosone. She is a woman who has mutilated herself and is taking drugs to suppress her true gender.

Stupid drive bys. THIS IS NOT A MAN... Get it right Dumb media!

22 posted on 07/03/2008 7:13:56 PM PDT by Syntyr ( Freepers - In the top %5 of informed Americans!)
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To: traumer

Give me a break!

This is a woman with a beard.

Men do not have the plumbing to have children.


23 posted on 07/03/2008 7:18:52 PM PDT by BillT (God said it, that settles it whether I believe it or not! (Bible rules))
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To: traumer

As a Los Angeles talk radio host described it “a woman in a Halloween costume” gave birth.


24 posted on 07/03/2008 7:20:22 PM PDT by jimfree (Freep and Ye shall find.)
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To: Jeff Head

“rrespective of how this woman had doctors mutilate her, and irrespective of what foolish legal titles may confer...she was a woman and is a woman.

Exactly, Jeff!

I am amazed that news sources (even Drudge) buy into this being some sort of a marvel.

“Step this way to see the amazing egress!”

TMc


25 posted on 07/03/2008 7:23:09 PM PDT by TFMcGuire (Either you are an American, or you are a liberal)
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To: traumer

The insistence on calling this person a man is ridiculous. This kind of thing is not common now but if we do not reign in reproductive issues and pass some clear laws offering stiff penalties for doctors we are going to see much more that this obscure occurrence in the future. There is coming a day when artificially produced zygotes will allow same sex couples to have babies that reflect them genetically. Lesbians would never be able to produce boys because they do not possess a y chromosome but there is nothing stopping them from having genetic samples taken and then having those samples combined to produce a viable embryo. The research has already been done using animals. We should really restrict reproduction to natural reproduction and make it a crime to help a person artificially conceive that is not married in a heterosexual relationship. It should have been restricted long ago because now we have budding subcultures that are eating away and disrupting the natural reproductive social structure. They may be extreme minorities but in a country where extreme minorities have an irrepresentative voice there is certainly danger of having these fringe ideas forced on the larger society which is already the case with radical homosexuality.


26 posted on 07/03/2008 7:25:59 PM PDT by Maelstorm (They will take our guns, take our money, take our children, and take our right to disagree.)
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To: traumer

Just another example of liberals making useless and stupid laws.

No matter what this person is legally, they are not “a man”. Men cannot have children, by nature’s law.

Maybe next the courts will try to repeal gravity.


27 posted on 07/03/2008 7:37:22 PM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: traumer

He has been married for five years to wife Nancy
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How does a female marry a female? I’d like to see the marriage license. What state would marry these two?


28 posted on 07/03/2008 7:43:03 PM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: traumer
Only in liberal media fantasy land can a person with "female reproductive organs" be considered a "man".

It's also true in the case of John Edwards...
29 posted on 07/03/2008 7:46:47 PM PDT by Antoninus (Every second spent bashing McCain is time that could be spent helping Conservatives downticket.)
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To: traumer

Ugly as a man. Ugly as a woman.
Regardless. It is a woman, not a man.


30 posted on 07/03/2008 7:52:29 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (If Hillary is elected, her legacy will be telling the American people: Better put some ice on that.)
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To: traumer

No doubt another Obama voter.


31 posted on 07/03/2008 8:25:14 PM PDT by Gator113 (Drill here, drill now...... or die.)
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To: traumer

you can’t change your gender and you can’t change your dna......this is a nice little story about a freakish woman having her baby.....


32 posted on 07/03/2008 8:28:14 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Jet Jaguar
Good. Now this sick story can be put to rest.

This story is so stupid. It is not a "man". It is a trans-gendered individual ... who was BORN A FEMALE ... Regardless of how one wants to live their life the above said person was born a female ... is a female ... and still has female body parts ...

The media seems to love the concept of a "pregnant male" and seems intent on pushing it down our throats complete with inaccurate reporting ...

The media and the "Pregnant" thing are all idiots.

33 posted on 07/03/2008 8:47:36 PM PDT by 08bil98z24 ( Not voting McCain IS a vote for Jimmy Carter 2. Stop Osama Obama now!)
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To: trumandogz
As a person who is strongly Pro-Life, I cannot object and wish them well.

As a person who feels this whole concept is disgusting ... I DO OBJECT and wish none of this ever happend ... Totally disgusting ...

I only hope this child will be raised somewhere by someone with more morals and sanity than its "mother / wannabe father".

34 posted on 07/03/2008 8:51:59 PM PDT by 08bil98z24 ( Not voting McCain IS a vote for Jimmy Carter 2. Stop Osama Obama now!)
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To: traumer

That poor baby.


35 posted on 07/03/2008 9:08:23 PM PDT by I_like_good_things_too (Check the "Yes" box next to survival)
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To: traumer

didn’t this girl/guy give any thought to the damage that was done to its eggs by taking those male hormones all those years?

girls are born with all the eggs they will ever have, so, what does a constant bombardment with testosterone (enough to be kind of like a guy) do to its eggs?


36 posted on 07/03/2008 9:23:39 PM PDT by machogirl
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She’s not a man. She’s a mutilated female.


37 posted on 07/03/2008 9:30:08 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: traumer

Beer gut???


38 posted on 07/03/2008 9:38:36 PM PDT by healy61
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To: montag813
They’d better check that baby very carefully. My MD told me the male hormones she was taking while pregnant can cause serious side effects and more frequent than normal risks of defects for the baby, often involving the genitals or reproductive system.

It stopped taking male hormones to resume menstruation, so, it likely didn't take them during pregnancy. This is NOT a man. I'd like to know what fool signed a paper saying it is.

39 posted on 07/03/2008 10:02:26 PM PDT by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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This is NOT a man. I'd like to know what fool signed a paper saying it is.

THAT should be the real issue here. We need to find out who certified this freak as a "man", and besiege them with unwanted attention.

40 posted on 07/03/2008 10:27:46 PM PDT by montag813
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Both Mr Beatie and his daughter are reported to be doing well in a hospital in Bend, Oregon.

Naturally, "Mr" Beatie (that's even another joke out there) lives in Bend, Oregon.

How can one create stuff like this?

Last time I was in Bend, my GF got so drunk, we could not go skiing and had to spend the day in our motel room. Pity!

(8-}

41 posted on 07/03/2008 10:57:42 PM PDT by jws3sticks (Hillary can take a very long walk on a very short pier, anytime, and the sooner the better!)
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That's not a man. It has an X Chromosone.

Everyone has at least one. This individual most likely has two, though there have been documented cases of XX males and XY females; I think such people are usually sterile, though. There are also occasional cases of people with genotype XXY or X.

Personally, I would suggest that people should be allowed to have their sex legally reassigned if their genotype and phenotype disagree. On the other hand, I suspect only a small portion of those who would seek sex reassignment have such genetic anomalies.

42 posted on 07/03/2008 11:02:31 PM PDT by supercat
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To: Alouette

Mutilated, hairy woman gives birth.

Bingo!


43 posted on 07/03/2008 11:04:10 PM PDT by djf (I don't believe in perpetual motion. Perpetual mutton, that's another thing entirely!)
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To: montag813
What's the criterion for legally changing your gender status? H&!!, I know some flat chested woman with facial hair. Could they have their gender status changed to male? Just think, there could be men out there having homosexual relations and not know it.
44 posted on 07/04/2008 2:38:39 AM PDT by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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