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First, it is claimed to get only 80 mpg.

Second, why do journalists never do anything silly like ask whether the inventor’s claims have been independently verified?

There is no way he can get 80mpg AND 400 Horsepower

And a happy 4th to you! LOL

cuz journalists don’t have common sense

and they’re educated at “j-schools” in universities

which are separate colleges.

so, they do not take rigorous courses such as math, physics, chemistry, engineering, law, latin or even rigorous history classes.

they take easy j-school classes.

400HP AND 80 MPG... Ahhh YUP.

Can anyone do the numbers?

It looks like he is getting more energy out of a gallon of gas than there is in a gallon of gas.

A case of 110% or better efficiency?

What radical technology did Mr. Pelmear introduce? His patents are not fully in place, but he said it mostly is a matter of electronics and precision.

"We redesigned a lot of different things on the [engine] block," the engineer said.

"It's still a rod-and-piston engine; it just has a lot more electronics on it."

Mr. Pelmear said that traditional gas engines operate "at a very low efficiency, like 8 to 10 percent, and our engine is like at 38 percent efficiency."

That is total crap. From WikiPedia Modern gasoline engines have an average efficiency of about 25 to 30% when used to power an automobile.

This is nothing. Send me $25, and I’ll send you maps that may help you locate an engine that gets 25,000 mpg...suppressed by Dick Cheney and Big Oil!

(Actually, in the 70s I had a neighbor who spent his free time searching farms in the belief that such an engine existed and that it was hidden by Big Oil - proof that the stupid will always be with us).

Maybe I should send the map to Larry P. Vellequette at: lvellequette@theblade.com - I could be a super-engineer as well!

And they are kept in the same “undisclosed location” that Cheney was spirited off to during the 911 attacks.

More Reports Here . . . I'm only surprised he's still walking around. 'Nuff said.

There is no way he can get 80mpg AND 400 Horsepower

Maybe with a small steam turbine attached to the drive shaft and a steam generator attached to the exhaust manifold.

Maybe he's running a special blend ...

There is no way he can get 80mpg AND 400 Horsepower

Sure there is, go to the top of the mountain, head down hill, put car in neutral and coast........now up hill and 80 mph with a 400 hp engine, that's a different deal.

"It's still a rod-and-piston engine; it just has a lot more electronics on it."

Sounds like what this "genius" did was take a 1987 carburetted engine and create his own micro processor controlled precision fuel metering. Gee, why didn't the major car companies think of that??!! /sarcasm

There is a reason Mustangs don't get 10 miles per gallon any more... Fuel injection.

In that article he claims 110 MPG, 400HP, 500 ftlbs torque, 0-6 in 3 seconds. That’s absurd.

He’s using some kind of supplemental power source and not counting it into his MPG figures, but he is counting it into his horsepower figures.

Like a tank of compressed air, or compressed hydrogen, or a storage bank of batteries.

There’s a simpler way to achieve a similar goal.

Water injection.

If you run an engine hard and at higher temps, then inject water along with the fuel, the water flashes to steam and adds additional chamber pressure to drive the piston down. Also, the water-to-steam process absorbs heat, lowers engine temps, and reduces waste energy lost to the cooling system and out the tailpipe. Reducing heat also allows you to run higher compression ratios without risk of detonation.

Drag racers used to use this trick.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_injection_%28engines%29

The six stroke diesel cycle takes this concept to another level.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crower_six_stroke

yup... he's up on youtube

I'm only surprised he's still walking around. 'Nuff said.

Uh huh I've Heard some stories myself

he could have an O2 tank pressurized by a turbo-exhaust unit and used at will plus a water recovery unit in the exhaust for the H2O injection

Napoleon, Ohio’s Doug Pelmear claims that he has created a V8-powered 1987 Ford Mustang that develops 400 horsepower and 500 lb-ft of torque on E85, can accelerate from 0-60 in about three seconds – on its way to a top speed of 180 mph – and still returns an astonishing 110 mpg.

Although a 400 horsepower economy car sounds too good to be true, Toledo’s Rocket Ventures, a subsidiary of the Regional Growth Partnership, has verified Pelmear’s claim, according to OzarksFirst.com.

Pelmear has yet to reveal what’s exactly under the hood of his Mustang – as he’s still waiting on a few patents – but says his work is based off the work of his grandfather who developed fuel-saving techniques during the 1940s.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/best-mechanic-ever-ohio-man-tunes-ford-mustang-to-produce-400-horsepower-and-return-110-mpg.html

I’m only surprised he’s still walking around. ‘Nuff said.

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Indeed.

See my tagline.

Why would anyone look at or believe anything on WikiPedia?

Air-Powered Car Coming to U.S. in 2009 to 2010 at Sub-$18,000, Could Hit 1000-Mile Range

The CityCAT, already being developed in India (bottom left), will be available for U.S. production in three different four-door styles. But it's the radical dual-energy engine, with a possible 1000-mile range at 96 mph, that could move the Air Car beyond Auto X Prize dreams and into American garages.

Zero Pollution Motors (ZPM) confirmed to PopularMechanics.com on Thursday that it expects to produce the world’s first air-powered car for the United States by late 2009 or early 2010. As the U.S. licensee for Luxembourg-based MDI, which developed the Air Car as a compression-based alternative to the internal combustion engine, ZPM has attained rights to build the first of several modular plants, which are likely to begin manufacturing in the Northeast and grow for regional production around the country, at a clip of up to 10,000 Air Cars per year.

And while ZPM is also licensed to build MDI’s two-seater OneCAT economy model (the one headed for India) and three-seat MiniCAT (like a SmartForTwo without the gas), the New Paltz, N.Y., startup is aiming bigger: Company officials want to make the first air-powered car to hit U.S. roads a $17,800, 75-hp equivalent, six-seat modified version of MDI’s CityCAT (pictured above) that, thanks to an even more radical engine, is said to travel as far as 1000 miles at up to 96 mph with each tiny fill-up.

That thing isn't a car, it's an imagination of a Tonka Toy.

This guy is talking an actual car, a Mustang.

Hey I didn’t say i didn’t like the stang im a Ford man anyway but for those who have long commutes back and forth to work and who are somewhat enviromentaly freindly this little air car would be nice to have i’ve been watching the development of this car for a while it would be especially nice if you live in the city me i’d like to have the little truck myself I’d like to deliver Guitars in person to some of my customers or pick up blanks at the sawmill it would be very handy and cut down on my overhead in gas prices ...

In that article he claims 110 MPG, 400HP, 500 ftlbs torque, 0-6 in 3 seconds. That’s absurd.

No it's not, he also invented a device that allows him to always be driving DOWN a hill! :)

bah.

Just like scooters, they should never allow them to get off the sidewalk and onto the sreeet!

A fellow Freeper, told me that this is Hoax.

He’s the “GO-TO” guy when it comes to oil.
I asked him for proof and gave me none.

Yeah. I posted that same video on my Freeper Page months ago.

There are lots of greedy industry shills posting here. They pretend to be good people and military veterans and even full time 'patriots.' Some even give generous donations. Organized crime sways the news media every day by buying air time. No Big Mystery here.

We are witnesses to clever hype and outright lies trumping the truth as never before in history. Time to wake up, people! Or just go pull the covers over your heads and ease back into dreamland.

I may know a few things . . . that greedy people in power do not want you to know ! R U Surprised ? Not really? Kinda or Maybe ? Don't give a rip?

Hmmmmmm

INDEED.

Have you read the quotes of political, media etc. leaders since 1900 at post #76 here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77

???

It still amazes me how many FREEPERS are still asleep . . . or drinking the MSM Koolaid.

Thanks for the link. I will copy that info and pass it along to many others on my private email list.

That media kool aid is deadly. Any surprise that television news has turned into crazed paparazzi stalking pretty women 24/7 today __________ ? People actually give a shi'ite about Britney's latest short skirt blooper? Brain dead people give rise to brain dead media and vice versa.

INDEED.

Right you are . . .

. . . that old thing about . . .

. . . . is for the good to be silent . . . .

will be such an indictment on our generation and era.

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Present Day 2001 Ford Mustang =

20 mpg average

(See 2nd Photo down)

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_collection.htm

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Happy Freedom Day - July 4th, 2008

..everybody, everywhere.

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Yeah, this is a load of horse****. How exactly is he getting 80 mpg and 400 HP with an ethanol blend, no less?

“Yeah, this is a load of horse****. How exactly is he getting 80 mpg and 400 HP with an ethanol blend, no less?”

Well, you’re welcome to contact:

Julie Myers at Rocket Ventures
Regional Growth Partnership
Phone: 419/252]2700

Rocket Ventures Revs its Engine with Horsepower Sales Sponsorship
http://www.rocketventures.org/News_Events/News_Release/Docs/Horsepower.pdf

They didn’t get much in writing classes either.

Wouldn’t it be easier to log in to suckersRus.org - the professional society for gullible reporters?

Send me all your money and I’ll send you a set of the plans. You will be RICH! Hurry! My bills are overdue on my big house, fancy cars, beautiful women and tuition at the televangelist school.

It would be “easier” if you wouldn’t bother me with you stupid posts. LOL

Happy 4th!

Fat chance, I know a con when I see it!

I’ll know a 80mpg, 400hp powerplant powered with E85 is possible....when it comes from Honda.

Otherwise, chalk this up to just another guy looking for suckers to pad his bank account while he does a song and dance about fraudulent technology that’ll never come into fruition.

“Otherwise, chalk this up to just another guy looking for suckers to pad his bank account while he does a song and dance about fraudulent technology that’ll never come into fruition.”

Well, we'll find out soon enough; ‘cause Pelmear was supposed to “put up or shut up” on 6/19 at Milan Dragway in Milan,MI. If I have time Monday, I'll place a call to Rocket Ventures and find out the results.

The auto-industry has had engines for full-size early 1970s Caddy's which looked like 472-4 capable 80 plus miles per gallon. Somebody did not desire those gas saving engines in (pre-1977) full-size American cars (or any other cars) to ever reach the public. I believe we are more than cognizant of the rest-of-that-story. It's the same story today concerning the auto & oil industry.

Otherwise how come there's an auto mechanic in Indiana doing full size car engine conversions right now, with no weight reduction and still these engines are getting @100 plus MPG(??)