Thanks, CA.

Very nicely put.

I concur. Such a great nation brought to it’s knees by liberalism. Can a great nation exist without a fair dictator and harsh punishment dealt to those who wish to harm it, either externally or internally?

He is correct and worded in just a few paragraphs what most cannot do in pages - well done.

“People get the government they deserve.” Joseph deMaistre.

And when people become THIS freaking STUPID and inattentive to their freedoms, THIS is the candidate they deserve.

1 minute satirical Obama video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR6b-kWncI4

Hurry before some diversity loving (RIGHT!) Obamaniac at YouTube pulls it.

These are but demons dispatched by one devil to tear apart the world once known to our octogenarian: THE FRANKFURT SCHOOL.

Who Placed American Men in a Psychic 'Iron Cage?'

Part II

The Thread of 'Cultural Marxism'

http://www.newtotalitarians.com/PsychicIronCagePartII.html

Well said CA!!!! I see America in an especially troubling decline. I feel helpless...

"EXECUTIONERS" * Those who provide familial and social support to the left.

Indeed it is the plan of the socialst/marxist democRATS to subvert the constitution and destroy the United States of America.

The want it replaced with the Socialst States of America.

But with 1/3 of the nation returned to Mexico as Aztlan. Another 1/4 of what’s left as reparations for slavery.

This man is part of a generation that has seen the steady eroding of our country by the acidic forces of liberalism. I can truly understand why his heart is so burdened by the loss of what America once was. May we never give up our battle to bring it back to what our founding fathers intended.

The scariest part about the Frankfurt School's marxism is that it is an effective tool for social change. Nothing is exempt from the dialectical approach Frankfurt recommends. It is only through faith and objective observation that we retain those values which have proven themselves, and reject those that are nothing more than universal iconoclasm.

But if you look at the cultural rifts that have occurred in the West, faith and objective truth have all vanished, undermined (successfully) by the architects of the New World Order.

Hillary Clinton is an avowed devotee of Antonio Gramsci and Herbert Marcuse. I don't know about Barack Obama, but his neo-socialist ideas seem to be the typical half-baked notions of butterfly-chasers and impractical dreamers, in other words, the standard diet of young liberals.

What about the conservative republicans who sat on their ass and watched it happen without ever bothering to change channels on the TV? Do they not share any of the blame? You can’t elect a RINO and expect to be satisfied with his performance!

CA Stubbs,
You remind me of the woman who was raped because she didn’t have the courage to use the firearm to slay her attacker.

The author’s analysis focused on the damages wrought by liberalism. Liberalism can be espoused and enacted by Democrats and Republicans, as well as all those who stand by and silently watch while their country is ravaged.

I’m sure there are plenty of directions to point fingers, but what you describe are the results of the application of the social engineering tools which have eroded our society to this point.

It is one thing to say people have elected RINOs to high office and quite another to rid ourselves of them, how many have you personally removed from in front of the TV or from office?

One could also point to people who do not vote at all or register for the selective service, (you did register didn’t you?), but this too is a result of social engineering.

I am old enough to have watched a lot of this first hand and there are many things done wrongly by many people to bring us here Mr. Stubbs has listed the main ones correctly.

I have been posting about Agenda 21, the ultimate social engineering tool, for over five years. While Americans sat on their ass never attending a City Council meeting to even inquire if their city is following Agenda 21 scriptures. My City Manager told me that I am the one and only resident of the city who enquired about Agenda 21.

I have never supported a single RINO for office or re-election and I am not about to start now.

I did not register for the selective service. I joined the SeaBees and pulled two tours in Nam.

Instead of bitching, Stubbs could have used his position to broadcast ideas on how to chart a different course than the one America is on now, but it is easier to bitch than think of how to repair the damages.

Sadder still, is that less than half of Americans would agree.

So many just don't mind these changes, or can't be bothered to do anything about it.

RINOs are nothing more than Gramscian plants. By continually shifting the "center" to the left, people like John McCain become palatable to conservatives (by contrast). Then, the Left has only to compare itself to a milder Leftist, and conservatism doesn't even get an airing. It has been proven that today's RINO is considerably more liberal than John Kennedy, who the Democrats champion as one of their standar-bearers!

George Bush has done more to damage to conservatism than Bill Clinton ever did. And John McCain will be as bad or worse.

If you're a conservative, you have no candidate this election. If you're a liberal, you have two.

The changes are inevitable. Force of will cannot undo the changes brought about by technology, immigration patterns and an emerging global culture.

You see the full picture!

“The changes are inevitable. Force of will cannot undo the changes brought about by technology, immigration patterns and an emerging global culture.”

Change is inevitable, but the changes under discussion here are not inevitable, except changes in technology. The changes here were most all enabled by legislation and/or court decisions. Immigration is determined legislatively. There is nothing inevitable about that. Changes in education curricula is determined by legislation and by state and local school boards. Many changes have come abut by court decision, as the decisions during the Civil Rights era empowered, or emboldened activist judges to make law from the bench while patting themselves and each other on the back. That change is not inevitable, but a matter of politics and judicial nominations and approvals.

And several major, change bring pieces of legislation have been passed against the will of the American people, namely NAFTA and GATT enabling legislation, and then the attempted amnesty legislation, which will be attempted again.

Labeling change that requires legislation as inevitable is an old and often used tactic. It’s true that most citizens have been unaware, or only slightly aware as some of this major legislation was passed. But amnesty, and now the cost of gasoline are getting the attention of more citizens, and we might see increasing attention to what our bought and paid for representatives are really doing in DC.

I’m unemployed, and have gone back to school to get a master’s degree. One of the academic sources I accidentally blundered upon blasts the Frankfurt School as as attempt to destroy western civilization.

So in my last paper I condemned the “noxious multicultural drivel” they were advocating, and cited this reference by a psychiatrist named Roberta Gilbert. I got the paper back with a hundred and no comment from the instructor. I don’t they know the origins of their own Bolshevism.

Schools are largely local affairs — communities get to decide how much to spend and more or less what to teach.

NAFTA may or may not have been a good idea at the time, but now, as the Mexican economy took a beating from China, it’s a bad idea.

To the best of my knowledge it is still a free country and folks are free to live according to the principles that suits them best.

For a very interesting, and chilling, analysis along these lines, read When Nations Die by Black!

The changes are inevitable.

Nonsense. Change only occurs because force is applied. If that force is counteracted, no change occurs. Conservatives have simply done a poor job of selling the status quo, which, admittedly, needs some improvement anyway.

Force of will cannot undo the changes brought about by technology, immigration patterns and an emerging global culture.

No, but maybe force of reason may. Who says those changes have to favor the Left? For example, the Internet has proven to a community of conservatives (FR, for example) that they are not alone, and that, as they have long suspected, the conventional media are telling only half the story. Technology then aids the conservative cause by giving a hitherto unheard voice a platform. The same goes for talk radio. And with the imminent demise of the traditional production/distribution structure for music and movies, those portals will no longer be owned exclusively by the agitprop engineers.

This is not the time to lie down and die, or to meekly resign ourselves to ignominy. Far from it. It's our hour to shine.

Amazon Review of When Nations Die:

~When Nations Die: Ten Warning Signs of a Culture in Crisis~ is an historical journey which manifests the perils of a culture in collapse. George Satayana once said, "Those who ignore the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them." Nelson has sketched a succinct historical sketch, drawing from the reservoir of historical experience to unravel the mysterious fate of nations throughout human history. It's findings are not surprising. He builds on the foundations of conservative Russell Kirk, in _The Roots of American Order_. Kirk posited that the roots of "culture" come from the "cult." In other words, culture (cult-ure) is based upon some form of religious or spiritual worldview. In the West, the prevailing religious worldview has been Christianity, since its advent two-thousand years ago. When the traditional beliefs of a nation decay, the nation gradually dies. "In ancient Greece, the first symptoms of disorder were a general loss of respect for tradition and the degradation of the young. Among the early symptoms was the decline of art and entertainment. The philosophers and pundits distorted the medium of communication. Rhetoric became combative and intolerant; intellectuals began to deride and attack all the traditional institutions of Hellenic society."

Jim Nelson Black sees ominous parallels to our own country. He says, "As I have looked back across the ruins and landmarks of antiquity, I have been stunned by the parallels between those societies and our own. For most of us the destruction of Carthage, the rise of the Greek city-states, and the Fall of Rome are mere ghosts of the past, history lessons long forgotten. And such things as the capture of Constantinople, the dissolution of the Holy Roman Empire, the collapse of the kingdoms of France and Spain, and the slow withering decline of the British Empire are much less clear and less memorable. Most of us do not remember much from our history lessons about the French Enlightenment or, for that matter, the issues that led to the American Revolution. But this is the legitimate background of our own place in history, it is vital that we reconsider the nature of life in those earlier times. For within those eras and movements are the seeds of the troubles we face today." Can anyone doubt that America is not treading down the same path of the Romans?

"Rome itself fell prey to the very lawlessness that it had exploited in conquering so many other nations. In the latter days of the Roman Empire, the law had little effect. Even the imposition of tyranny in the last years could not stop the collapse of law and order. When the Roman peace was no longer possible, the nation fell. The Dark ages, which spread over Europe for the next thousand years, was the result of the loss of order and balance in the world. No single nation and no empire could offer any transcendent system of authority. Only the Christian church was positioned to give meaning and purpose to the lives of the people."
--Jim Nelson Black, When Nations Die, p. 38

When nations die, and that they do, we see certain recurring patterns:

"Among the social symptoms we should recognize are a general increase in lawlessness throughout the culture; the loss of economic discipline and self-restraint; rising bureaucracy, government regulation, and taxes; and a decline in the quality and relevance of education. Among cultural factors, we see a weakening of the foundational principles that contributed to the greatness of the nation, a loss of respect for established religions, and an increase in materialism. Important spiritual indicators include a rise in immorality, the lure of alien gods, and a decline in the value of human life. These two symptoms of cultural dysfunction are unmistakable signs of decay that may be discovered in great societies from antiquity to the present--symptoms that, in sufficient combination, indicate the impending demise of any culture."
--Jim Nelson Black, When Nations Die, p. xviii

"It appears to me that our culture labors in an advanced state of decadence; that what many people mistake for the triumph of our civilization actually consists of powers that are disintegrating our culture; that the vaunted 'democratic freedom' of liberal society in reality is servitude to appetites and illusions which attack religious belief; which destroy community through excessive centralization and urbanization; which efface life-giving tradition and custom."
--Russell Kirk

I don’t [think] they know the origins of their own Bolshevism.

They don't. And even if they do, it doesn't make it any less pernicious.

“Schools are largely local affairs — communities get to decide how much to spend and more or less what to teach.”

Apparently you are unaware of all the federal programs which provide funds to state and local boards IF those state and local boards comply with federal requirements. It’s no accident that such strings are attached to federal funds to schools.

“To the best of my knowledge it is still a free country and folks are free to live according to the principles that suits them best.”

Your knowledge is limited, then. School curricula are a major point of controversy, with many educators viewing themselves as teaching the values children should be taught, and even to undo the incorrect values taught by parents, and to be substitutes for poor parenting. Everyone can’t afford private schools, and many must send their kids to schools where they disagree with what is being taught. That’s a fairly major “principle” that many parents are forced to abandon: the right to teach their kids values without the school working against them.

And that’s just one area of federal intrusion on the rights of citizens.

Will, you had we agreeing with you until you got to the part of "Will of the People" when talking about NAFTA and GATT. Forgetting the negatives and positives of these agreements, we are NOT GOVERNED and have NEVER BEEN GOVERNED by the RULE OF THE MOB. We are a representative republic, not a rule by referendum mobocracy. If the American people really cared so much about NAFTA, GATT, campaign finance reform, etc. they would have flooded Washington with letters and phone calls against it, or organized protests nationwide. Then they would have influenced their representatives, as all of the lobbyist money falls by the wayside when you fear you will be voted out in the next election. A key example would be the Amnesty bill of 2006, which was killed by citizen mobilization via mail and phonebank work.

If the "Will of the People" is to lynch bankers and ban "assault weapons" should it "be so?" NO, because we are a republic and not a lynchmobocracy.

Simple solution: don’t accept gubmint hand outs.

* Strong Religious Values, highly influenced by the King James Version Of The Bible.

Urbanization (and I include suburbs here) of the populace, the spread of higher education, and the all-pervading mass culture have done more to undermine traditional religion than any judicial decision or legislative act.

Back in the beginning, we had a founding class of MEN who valued liberty and prosperity, and were FIRMLY AGAINST the rampant clericalism and religious sectarianism that had corrupted Europe. The various Christian sects (Congregationalists, Baptists, Methodists, etc.) dominant at the time were divided by questions of doctrine which meant their influence could not be wielded nationwide, and faiths such as the baptists were AGAINST the mixing of religion and politics as the latter corrupted the former.

The idea of the United States being a "Christian nation" was a 19th century ideal that became strong first in the antislavery crusades (a direct result of the Second Great Awakening) and later in the temperance movement.

My point here is that, while the US has always had alot of religious people, our political elites (and I DO NOT use that as a negative term) were a largely secular lot and were not of the church-every-sunday crowd. The secularization of this country will continue not because of the "evil secular humanist judges" but because people are just becoming more skeptical of the Christian faiths. 1/3 of those who are baptized Catholic in the United States leave the church (per Pew) and most of those aren't exactly going to Megachurch USA either.

American identity and following the Christian faith should never be understood as being one in the same. Any political movement/party founded solely on the premise of "preserving christianity" is doomed to failure, barring another Great Awakening.

If I recall correctly the only folks protesting NAFTA at the time were the unions.

Mostly Unions, with a small contingent of the John Birch Society who believed that NAFTA would bring about rule by the Bildebergers and Council on Foreign Relations.

NAFTA would have stemmed the tide of illegal immigration if China hadn’t kicked their economic butt.

Stubbs, There's PLENTY of blame to go around.

And just so you'll know I'm and equal opportunity kinda guy, here are just two of them now (from some of my older posts of the RINO Rogues Gallery).

Lott seems to be joining the charge against TALK RADIO via the laughingly labeled “Fairness Doctrine.” We can only GUESS what he has in store for the internet – especially when he gets wind of what’s going on at FR.

Hey, all you incredibly dumb and uninformed Americans, I’m Lindsey Graham. I’m a really, really, REALLY smart lawyer from South Carolina.

Because I am from South Carolina, some of you uninformed BIGOTS might call me a “cracker.”

Actually, that suits me just fine because that would make me a Graham Cracker. So if you don’t like my position on immigration (often bent over Ted Kennedy’s desk), you can

BITE ME!

Interestingly enough, the murderers listed are all Americans. Abraham Lincoln was prophetic when he said...

"At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide." - Lyceum Speech, 1838

When Nations Die it is because the men have laid down.

My guy (Duncan Hunter) was out of the race before I had the chance to vote for him.

You have to live in NY state for a while. Where Reppublicans are RINO’s and the democRATS from downstate run roughshod over us because they simply have more of them then there is of us in upstate.

...and because down staters send huge amounts of cash to Albany via taxes.

Well-meaning middle-aged women who vote straight Republican have consistently told me :”I want to be able to trust that the elected officials will do the right thing.” Then, they don't even take the time to find out what is happening in their town/county/country.

I have spoken up all my life. Way back 20 years ago, people would listen, say nothing, and then after the meeting, sidle up to me and say “Thank you for saying what we were thinking.” Then, they go back into their niceness coma.

On a persistent issue here in my area, I spent over 10 years informing leaders, movers and shakers with the very words of the people who moved in with the agenda of taking over. No one did anything because their property values were rising as they sold to these infiltrators and their children had to attend school with them. Here we are in 2008. I keep being told:”You were right. How did you know that back then?” Those same children have been subverted by the same culture of the infiltrators. There are now grandchildren to consider and one parent and set of grandparents of each grandchild is from the group that is taking over and subverting our ideals and values. But folks love their kids and grandbabies, so they stay shut and grumble and grouse among themselves, having still done nothing at all to make any difference.

The children who have left have entered lifestyles diametrically opposed to those they were taught at home. Their heartbroken parents will tell me and no one else, because I have always warned that "The culture rules." But they love their children, regardless of how they live and they are mostly becoming cautious about public condemnation, since they would be condemning their own child. They facilitate these destructive lifestyles out of love, even when the children are actually abusive to the parents.

This is happening all over America in so many different venues it makes me dizzy to contemplate them all. Social engineering works for the other side. It has totally failed for us.

Hillary Clinton is an avowed devotee of Antonio Gramsci and Herbert Marcuse. I don't know about Barack Obama, but his neo-socialist ideas seem to be the typical half-baked notions of butterfly-chasers and impractical dreamers, in other words, the standard diet of young liberals.

It may be even worse with Obama, he is an acolyte of Saul Alinsky. Recently, FrontPage Magazine has written a disquieting article about Mr. Alinsky and Obama's commitment to him.

Democrats’ Platform for Revolution

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=D6E27ECE-9798-4F01-A378-3F1405F69704

There’s some places where even an old coot like me refuses to live. NY is one of them.

I swear that I could have written the first three paragraphs! I know where you’ve been, where you’ve walked and talked.

Frustratingly depressing isn’t it?

One of the reasons I stay on FR is that this may be the last place left where someone could have written your post.

I truly appreciate it.

Frustratingly depressing is one way of saying it, yes. Not my immediate choice of words but in this case, they’ll do.

and because down staters send huge amounts of cash to Albany via taxes

I didn't dispute that.... I said, that there are more downstaters that there are upstaters and by the sheer force of numbers the state government reflects the the desires of the majority. While we who live upstate, are forced to comply with policies created by liberals who are from Manhattan. Governor Patterson D-Harlem, Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver D- Manhattan, AG Andrew Cuomo D-LI, DEC Chief Pete Grannis D- Manhattan. Where exactly in state governement is a leader who is from west or north of the Catskills? While you think that Downstate pours money into Albany, who is by far the largest beneficiary of this largess? I can assure you that it is not upstate.

While you think that Downstate pours money into Albany, who is by far the largest beneficiary of this largess? I can assure you that it is not upstate.

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Who then? I’m asking because I’m genuinely curious.

“Simple solution: don’t accept gubmint hand outs.”

A silly, dismissive answer. A simpler solution, if the feds want to be in the education business, they should only provide very general guidelines for the use of funds, rather than using federal funds as a stick to beat local school boards over the head.

Whether the feds should be in the education business is one thing, but since they are, and they’re sending around significant amounts of money, local boards will and should seek those funds.

“Will, you had we agreeing with you until you got to the part of “Will of the People” when talking about NAFTA and GATT.”

I hardly think a debate over trade agreements is the place to raise the specter of mob rule. Our representative democracy also is not a rule by the elite, where an elite fashions and arranges society to their advantage. There was a great deal of mobilization against NAFTA, and it was losing in the House until the proponents bought off several Reps. with special protection deals for some industries in their districts.

Apparently, you aren’t bothered by a “representative democracy” where the biggest campaign contributors have the access to legislators and get what they want an amazing amount of the time.

And, the efforts to defeat amnesty won only a temporary victory as they will try to pass it again, even though every half-assed objective poll shows 70%, 80% and more of citizens oppose it.

With the tilt so often in favor of a minority of self-interested groups, and opposed to significant majorities of citizens, your concern about “mob rule” is a strange one.

Ever heard of the tyranny of the minority?

I can sympathize (and maybe empathize) with you even though I don’t know the specifics. Have you ever tried to tell them they were AWOL when the rubber was meeting the road? How did they react?

The children who have left have entered lifestyles diametrically opposed to those they were taught at home. Their heartbroken parents will tell me and no one else, because I have always warned that "The culture rules." But they love their children, regardless of how they live and they are mostly becoming cautious about public condemnation, since they would be condemning their own child. They facilitate these destructive lifestyles out of love, even when the children are actually abusive to the parents.

In many instances, the children have been turned against the parents (through high school and college brainwashing, for example), so the parents are left to choose between God and principles on the one hand, and family ties on the other. They cannot have both.

Think of the hordes of hysterical young fascists who have terrorized college campuses for decades now. They are real, and many of them have since graduated to holding an invisible sword over their parents' heads to get what they want out of them, and otherwise they have no use for them. They are cold and pitiless machines. I have met them.