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India ready to make multi-billion-dollar oilsands deal in Alberta
Canada.com ^ | July 3, 2008 | Shaun Polczer

Posted on 07/05/2008 12:13:03 PM PDT by NRG1973

After two years of hunting the oilsands for acquisitions, India plans to pull the trigger on a multibillion-dollar deal this year, government officials told the World Petroleum Congress on Thursday.

"Indeed, we are going to get more actively engaged in the Canadian tar sands in the next six months, we are looking at opportunities," said M. S. Srinivasan, India's Petroleum Secretary.

He said India would prefer to acquire assets over producing companies on a magnitude of at least $2 billion to $2.5 billion.

"Size does matter," he continued. "We would like to be going for an economically viable size; too small an acreage may not be a commercially viable proposition."

India is currently the world's fifth-largest consumer of energy and accounts for almost four per cent of the world's energy consumption. Like other emerging economies, it has been scouring the globe for oil and gas supplies to fuel its growth.

In a speech to the congress - which wrapped up Thursday - Oil Minister Murli Deora said India needs ever-increasing oil and gas reserves at home and abroad to sustain economic growth of nine to 10 per cent per year.

"India's energy needs are growing as income levels and population are both rising. Our main focus is to enhance energy security for the country," he said.

Although its domestic production is expected to jump 30 per cent over the next five years, it still won't be enough to feed its economic development.

The country has been looking for an entry into the oilsands for more than two years.

In April 2006 it was reportedly on the verge of signing a deal that would mark its foray into North America.

Srinivasan said India had two teams in Canada looking at oilsands assets but became "busy" with other opportunities in other countries.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: energy; globalism; india; trade
The government of India is looking out for their people. I can't blame them if they go ahead and sign a deal with the Canadians.
1 posted on 07/05/2008 12:13:04 PM PDT by NRG1973
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To: NRG1973
Can we get the government of India to run our government? I would not mind that outsourcing.
2 posted on 07/05/2008 12:16:20 PM PDT by bronxboy
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To: bronxboy
Can we get the government of India to run our government? I would not mind that outsourcing.

So, you would like the U.S. Government to get into the oil business and make deals with foreign nations?

3 posted on 07/05/2008 12:19:38 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: NRG1973
India needs ever-increasing oil and gas reserves at home and abroad to sustain economic growth of nine to 10 per cent per year.

Neither will be happening much longer if this keeps up.

4 posted on 07/05/2008 12:26:18 PM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: trumandogz
No, I would like the government to act in the interest of it's people, not the enviomental wackos. It is amazing, the government of India realizes that the country will need energy, and go out and get it. Worse, it is in our backyard. That is what I mean.
5 posted on 07/05/2008 12:57:21 PM PDT by bronxboy
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To: trumandogz

They’re already in the oil bidness by restricting supply.
In the current climate of energy with other governments watching out for their people we are getting screwed.
Maybe it time for our own government take our side.


6 posted on 07/05/2008 1:00:20 PM PDT by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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To: smoketree
Forget it unless we light a red hot fire under every pols ass no change. They only act when threatened with losing their pathetic jobs.
7 posted on 07/05/2008 1:10:15 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: bronxboy
I am not all that sure we have a greater right to Canadian oil sands simply because it is in "our backyard." I am sure the Canadians despite our keeping their hockey playing asses safe for 100 years, can decide to who they want to sell their oil sands.

And yes, over the last 30 years both parties Democrat and Republican have impeaded domestic oil production with the 1981 Offshore drilling ban which was signed into law by a Republican President and the ANWR drilling ban that is supported by John McCain. Both Parties and the American people are to blame for the mess that we are in.

8 posted on 07/05/2008 1:17:43 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: NRG1973

Perhaps if we asked China to drill the Alaska desert, the commiecrats would agree?
If you like $5/gal, Thank Congress.

Pray for W and Our Troops


9 posted on 07/05/2008 1:23:50 PM PDT by bray (Drill Congress!!!)
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To: trumandogz
You are right about that. Both the parties are pathetic when it comes to protecting our energy assets.
10 posted on 07/05/2008 1:25:12 PM PDT by bronxboy
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To: trumandogz
I am not all that sure we have a greater right to Canadian oil sands simply because it is in "our backyard." I am sure the Canadians despite our keeping their hockey playing asses safe for 100 years, can decide to who they want to sell their oil sands.

It's not a matter of "greater right." The point is, the USA is the natural market for this product, and it would be better for the consumers in both the USA and Canada if the USA were the primary customer.

That we aren't is because of a disgrace called the Democrat Congress.

11 posted on 07/05/2008 2:13:23 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: denydenydeny

There are no “natural markets” but rather who is willing to pay the best price to the producer. Thus it would seem that he indians are willing to pay a better price than the Americans.


12 posted on 07/05/2008 2:22:33 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: NRG1973

The other point here is that all of the grandstanding by Pelosi and Obama and The US Council of Mayors has meant nothing. The ridiculous “we don’t want your dirty tar sands” rhetoric has only ensured that the petroleum product from the Canadian tar sands will be burned in India, which is exempt from Kyoto-type emissions controls now and in the future.

The net effect is that the “dirty gas” will be burned anyway, without any emissions controls at all, and the American consumer will continue to pay higher and higher gas prices, and the Democrat Party, having achieved a meaningless symbolic victory, gets to feel righteous.


13 posted on 07/05/2008 2:23:22 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: trumandogz
And yes, over the last 30 years both parties Democrat and Republican have impeaded domestic oil production with the 1981 Offshore drilling ban which was signed into law by a Republican President and the ANWR drilling ban that is supported by John McCain. Both Parties and the American people are to blame for the mess that we are in.

You are poorly informed about Congressional voting records. Republicans have overwhemingly supported energy exploration while rats have overwhelmingly opposed energy exploration. In 1996, Clinton vetoed ANWR exploration. Bush has repeatedly tried to get Congress to approve domestic oil and natural gas exploration. The rats and a few RINOs have blocked this legislation. To the extent that domestic energy exploration can alleviate the energy situation, the rats are obstructionists. They are elitist, arrogant, central planners leading us into an energy meltdown. The left in this country is unique in its opposition to responsible energy development. The left in Europe does not block responsible energy development.

14 posted on 07/05/2008 2:25:43 PM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: NRG1973

Time to start rubbing sticks together again folks.


15 posted on 07/05/2008 2:31:11 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (BARACK OBAMA WILL SAVE US! HE HAS RISEN!!)
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To: trumandogz
Can we get the government of India to run our government? I would not mind that outsourcing.

So, you would like the U.S. Government to get into the oil business and make deals with foreign nations?

No, I don't want the U.S. Government to get into the oil business nor do I want it to provide subsidies (e.g. ethanol).

However, I do think that our leaders should at least remove roadblocks to sensible development of domestic energy sources, e.g. offshore drilling, ANWR drilling, oil sands, coal to oil and nuclear power.

16 posted on 07/05/2008 2:32:12 PM PDT by LuxAerterna
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To: NRG1973

Buy your own chunk of the Tarsands!

There are a variety of listed stocks at all stages of development and production.

Start with ECA, then go down the list - PCA, UTS, several income trusts, CLL, etc, etc...

Try robtv.com for plenty of realtime and archived coverage of the markets these puppies trade on.

The gubmint’s not going to do it for you.


17 posted on 07/05/2008 2:40:00 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: trumandogz
There are no “natural markets” but rather who is willing to pay the best price to the producer. Thus it would seem that he indians are willing to pay a better price than the Americans.

It has nothing to do with "price." India has to pay the enormous costs of transporting product 6000 miles halfway around the world. America could absorb the product instantly using existing infrastructure. If it came down to "price," India would have to pay enormous amounts in order to "outbid" America for this product.

But it doesn't, because this has nothing to do with "price." It's all politics. The Democratic Party has decided that America has the luxury of writing off most of the known oil reserves on this continent.

And it's just silly to say that "there are no 'natural markets'". Maybe you do your grocery shopping in London, but I prefer to shop at one of the supermarkets within a one-mile radius. I would imagine that the people who spent millions of dollars to build and stock them sure believed in natural markets.

18 posted on 07/05/2008 2:46:31 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: NRG1973

India is buying oil land rights basically. It will have to be developed and then the oil separated, processed, refined and shipped. The US could do the same in the vast oil sands tracts of land in Alberta.


19 posted on 07/05/2008 4:28:53 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: businessprofessor
You are poorly informed about Congressional voting records. Republicans have overwhemingly supported energy exploration while rats have overwhelmingly opposed energy exploration.

I understand that you are a business professor while I simply took a couple business glasses while at university. However, you state that Republicans have overwhemingly supported energy exploration.

If that is the case why is it that the current Offshore Drilling Ban has stood since 1981 and has been renewed every year?

Now let's review each year since 1981 and see who it is that voted for and signed the renewual of the Offshore Drilling Ban.

1981 GOP President and a GOP Senate

1982 GOP President and a GOP Senate

1983 GOP President and a GOP Senate

1984 GOP President and a GOP Senate

1985 GOP President and a GOP Senate

1986 GOP President and a GOP Senate

1987 GOP President

1988 GOP President

1989 GOP President

1990 GOP President

1991 GOP President

1992 GOP President

1993 Dem President Dem House and Senate

1994 Dem President Dem House and Senate

1995 Dem President GOP House and Senate

1996 Dem President GOP House and Senate

1997 Dem President GOP House and Senate

1998 Dem President GOP House and Senate

1999 Dem President GOP House and Senate

2000 Dem President GOP House and Senate

2001 GOP President GOP House and Senate

2002 GOP President GOP House and Senate

2003 GOP President GOP House and Senate

2004 GOP President GOP House and Senate

2005 GOP President GOP House and Senate

2006 GOP President GOP House and Senate

2007 GOP President Dem House and Senate

Now, "Professor" how is it that you only want to blame the Democrats for blocking the Offshore Drilling Ban when for 25 of the last 27 years the GOP has controlled either the White House or one or more houses of the Legislative Branch?

Or, would that lesson be taught by a less poorly informed tenured professor?

As I said, and proved. Both Parties are to blame.

20 posted on 07/05/2008 4:50:42 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: denydenydeny

Why are you so concerned about the cost of India transporting the oil from Canada half way across the globe?

Don’t you think that the Indians have already computed that cost into their equation?

Don’t you believe that the Canadians have the right to sell their oil sands to whomever they wish?

Why are you so concerned about a deal that is made between a buyer and a seller of which you have no relationship?

It is called a Free Market!


21 posted on 07/06/2008 11:04:11 AM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: trumandogz
However, you state that Republicans have overwhelmingly supported energy exploration.

You are omitting important facts. You have committed an error of omission. You also resort to childish personal attacks. You can disagree with attacking me personally.

There has been a congressional ban since 1981. The executive order originated with President Bush I. In 1996, the Republican Congress voted to overturn the ANWR ban but Clinton vetoed the bill. President Bush has repeatedly called for lifting the ban on both ANWR and offshore oil exploration. Because of solid opposition by the rats and some RINO votes, he has not been able to get drilling approved. You are right that Bush could have provided more leadership on the offshore drilling. He signed another executive order extending the ban. However, he is solidly for drilling in ANWR, offshore, and the Rockies (for oil share).

Overall, your assessment is misleading. The conservative Republicans are solidly for energy exploration. Almost every rat is against energy exploration. Even McCain is for offshore energy exploration and nuclear plant development. At this point, the rats are solidly to blame. We have a largely Democrat energy policy with Democrats attempting to blame Republicans for high energy prices. The energy situation will become much worse when the rats take complete control. Global warming legislation, renewable mandates, and windfall profit taxes will lead to an energy meltdown.

22 posted on 07/06/2008 5:41:08 PM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: businessprofessor
First, I did not mention ANWR and believe that the ANWR should be opened just as I believe that the Offshore Ban should be lifted. I just wish John McCain felt the same way and did not state that offshore drilling should take place only if the States agree to drilling.

Second, I did not say that Conservatives were standing in the way of lifting the offshore drilling ban but rather that Republicans, when they were in Control of the House, Senate or White House had more than twenty opportunities to lift the ban.

23 posted on 07/06/2008 9:47:51 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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