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U.S. Shuts Big Bank As Crisis Intensifies
Wall Street Journal ^
| July 11, 2008
| Damian Paletta and David Enrich
Posted on 07/11/2008 4:18:12 PM PDT by politicket
IndyMac Bank, a prolific mortgage specialist that helped fuel the housing boom, was seized Friday by federal regulators in one of the largest bank failures in U.S. history.
The Pasadena, Calif., thrift was one of the largest savings and loans in the country with about $32 billion in assets. It now joins an infamous list of collapsed banks, topped by Continental Illinois National Bank and Trust Co., which failed in 1984 with $40 billion of assets.
IndyMac specialized in Alt-A loans, a type of mortgage that can often be offered to borrowers who don't fully document their incomes or assets. ...
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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bank; banks; congress; democrats; fed; indymac; schumer
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The chips are beginning to fall...
To: politicket
Did this story get released after the market closed? That's not a good sign.
To: the invisib1e hand
The story was released at 6:59 p.m. EST. You’re right, IndyMac is just a precursor of what’s coming.
To: politicket
How bad do you think it will get?
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posted on
07/11/2008 4:21:59 PM PDT
by
proudofthesouth
(Homosexuality IS a choice! There isn't any biological reason for it. They CHOOSE to be that way!)
To: politicket
The libs told the banks that if you they didn’t loan money to sub-prime borrowers, the majority of whom were minorities, then they were “racist”. So the forced them to loan the money to people who couldn’t pay it back. And that’s where we are...
Back to you, Chet.
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posted on
07/11/2008 4:22:22 PM PDT
by
Bobkk47
To: politicket
From the article:
In a written statement, the Office of Thrift Supervision, which regulated IndyMac, said "the immediate cause" of the failure was statements made by Sen. Charles Schumer, a New York Democrat. Mr. Schumer in late June publicly raised concerns about the bank's solvency.
Can't wait to see Shumie wiggle on this one.
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posted on
07/11/2008 4:23:25 PM PDT
by
groanup
(Most of my cliche's aren't original.)
To: Bobkk47
Political correctness is rapidly killing this country.
I'm 51 years old. I NEVER thought I would live to see its destruction but I probably will. God help the children of this country.
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posted on
07/11/2008 4:24:43 PM PDT
by
proudofthesouth
(Homosexuality IS a choice! There isn't any biological reason for it. They CHOOSE to be that way!)
To: proudofthesouth
How bad do you think it will get?
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac will probably go under. The Fed's just allowed them access to the discount window today, but that is like putting out a forest fire with a squirt gun.
I also wouldn't be surprised to see Lehman, Citibank, and UBS either go under or suffer irreparable harm. UBS is located in Sweden.
The bank failures are going to seem small potatoes once the derivatives market starts unwinding.
To: politicket
To: politicket
The bank failures are going to seem small potatoes once the derivatives market starts unwinding. What can folks do to protect their assets?
10
posted on
07/11/2008 4:28:20 PM PDT
by
Fury
To: politicket
Friday, too. Nothing happens on the weekend, but this story might make WSJ radio Saturday show.
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posted on
07/11/2008 4:28:25 PM PDT
by
RightWhale
(I will veto each and every beer)
To: politicket
can you develop your logic for the end of world a little bit better?
To: politicket
Last Fall I told my elderly Mom to get out of the market and sell everything she had. She didn’t listen to me and she may very well loose everything she has invested.
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posted on
07/11/2008 4:28:59 PM PDT
by
proudofthesouth
(Homosexuality IS a choice! There isn't any biological reason for it. They CHOOSE to be that way!)
To: the invisib1e hand
Always travel with towel.
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posted on
07/11/2008 4:29:48 PM PDT
by
bvw
To: politicket; All
The bank failures are going to seem small potatoes once the derivatives market starts unwinding. This is "fire in a theater" talk. What rock have you been hiding under for the last year?
To: groanup
Thanks Democrats! Let's see if you can get that approval rating even LOWER now that you are actively running banks out of business and putting thousands out of work!
BTW, the director of the OTS is John Reich, who once served as Chief of Staff to Sen. Connie Mack. He is no wallflower and he's taking it to Schumer on this one. Schumer also had a lot to do with the collapse of Countrywide.
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posted on
07/11/2008 4:30:24 PM PDT
by
Dems_R_Losers
(Obama is a Neocommunist)
To: politicket
17
posted on
07/11/2008 4:30:25 PM PDT
by
SE Mom
(Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
To: Fury
What can folks do to protect their assets? Commodities. Own the oil well. If oil wells are nationalized, you will own the shirt on your back.
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posted on
07/11/2008 4:30:26 PM PDT
by
RightWhale
(I will veto each and every beer)
To: RockinRight
I hope you don’t work for this bank....
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posted on
07/11/2008 4:31:25 PM PDT
by
raybbr
(You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
To: Bobkk47
And you won’t hear Bush or any Republican state this fact, right David?
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posted on
07/11/2008 4:31:36 PM PDT
by
gathersnomoss
(General George Patton had it right.)
To: politicket
Are you SERIOUS? Do you think they’ll let Freddie and Fannie go down?
I’d be surprised.
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posted on
07/11/2008 4:31:47 PM PDT
by
SE Mom
(Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
To: proudofthesouth
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posted on
07/11/2008 4:32:41 PM PDT
by
gathersnomoss
(General George Patton had it right.)
To: groanup
"Although this institution was already in distress, I am troubled by any interference in the regulatory process," said OTS Director John Reich. Everyone needs a little Federal on Federal now and then.
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posted on
07/11/2008 4:32:44 PM PDT
by
rabscuttle385
(Off balance sheet liabilities...they're not just for Enron anymore!)
To: Fury
What can folks do to protect their assets?
I only play an investment counselor on TV. Seriously, my family went to cash last December. We're losing money due to the devaluation of the US Dollar, but not like we would have lost if we stayed in the market.
The other thing that I would recommend is to prepare your household for an economic collapse. I'm not saying that it will definitely happen, but you don't want to be making plans the day it does. We're raising chickens and growing quite a bit of our own produce. Keeping the ammo stocked probably isn't a bad idea either.
P.S.: This has nothing to do with the upcoming election - even though there are many on FR that will tell you that. It has to do with many bad financial risks and decisions that are rapidly collapsing.
To: politicket
"failed bank alert"
THANK YOU SMUCKY SHOOMER of NEW YORK!!!
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posted on
07/11/2008 4:35:19 PM PDT
by
litehaus
(A memory tooooo long)
To: SE Mom
Yes, the Fed should let the market fall. But wait, there is hope, for a Change. Do I see The Magic Negro?
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posted on
07/11/2008 4:35:28 PM PDT
by
gathersnomoss
(General George Patton had it right.)
To: politicket; All
In early or mid June someone posted here on FR that due to some kind of stock market or economical theory that the BIG, BIG crash will happen early next week. That this coming crash will make the Depression look like a walk in the park. I wonder if this is the beginning of that happening.
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posted on
07/11/2008 4:36:30 PM PDT
by
proudofthesouth
(Homosexuality IS a choice! There isn't any biological reason for it. They CHOOSE to be that way!)
To: the invisib1e hand
can you develop your logic for the end of world a little bit better?
I'm not predicting the end of the world. But my understanding of God's Word and the current environment of the United States shows that God has lifted His hand of protection from our country.
To: Southack
Pinging you on this thread for your comments, which are always appreciated.
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posted on
07/11/2008 4:36:53 PM PDT
by
Fury
To: Fury
You can thank Senator Chuck Schumer’s public letter for the $1.3 Billion run on IndyMac’s deposits this week.
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posted on
07/11/2008 4:38:10 PM PDT
by
Southack
(Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
To: RightWhale
They always close them on Friday. When a bank is having serious problems they know every Friday could be the day.
To: Bobkk47
So the forced them to loan the money to people who couldnt pay it back. LOL! Forced them? The banks were falling all overthemselves to lend money to people who couldn't afford it. They thought the worst case scenario would be they could soak the their customers for a couple of years worth of interest payments then foreclose and sell the house to some other sucker.
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posted on
07/11/2008 4:39:22 PM PDT
by
Smogger
(It's the WOT Stupid)
To: the invisib1e hand
This is "fire in a theater" talk. What rock have you been hiding under for the last year?
I have spent the last 8 years of my life heavily involved in the investment consulting industry. My involvement had to do with the certification and training of consultants dealing with high net-worth clients (many VP's, etc. from major financial houses).
What is your expertise?
To: politicket
Heard on a local talk station here that as many as 6000 banks are going under shortly,we’ll see.
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posted on
07/11/2008 4:40:01 PM PDT
by
silentreignofheroes
(Old Dogs and Children,and Watermelon Wine.)
To: proudofthesouth
I wonder if this is the beginning of that happening. No.
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posted on
07/11/2008 4:40:05 PM PDT
by
groanup
(Most of my cliche's aren't original.)
To: the invisib1e hand
Did this story get released after the market closed? That's not a good sign. It's probably the best way to do it. It gives them a couple of days over the weekend to get situated and re-open on Monday.
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posted on
07/11/2008 4:40:33 PM PDT
by
HAL9000
("No one made you run for president, girl."- Bill Clinton)
To: politicket
Lehman... Great pick by NJ Governor / Bozo: Corzine. The recent [2 mo. ago] teacher's pension fund investment in Lehman Brothers has now lost $120,000,000 as of today. That is a 66% loss in two months. 16% today alone.
Corzo's handpicked Wall Street manager found this gem. But...it is the NJNEA so screw 'em
37
posted on
07/11/2008 4:40:34 PM PDT
by
Swanks
To: politicket
I'm not predicting the end of the world. But my understanding of God's Word and the current environment of the United States shows that God has lifted His hand of protection from our country.Amen ! Look up; the King is coming !
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
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posted on
07/11/2008 4:40:42 PM PDT
by
XeniaSt
(you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
To: gathersnomoss
Ah...diversity and political correctness...
Let’s take care of ‘em...
The chicks have come home to roost and the shit smells...
To: politicket
I guess the sky really IS falling.
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posted on
07/11/2008 4:41:27 PM PDT
by
skeeter
To: SE Mom
Are you SERIOUS? Do you think theyll let Freddie and Fannie go down?
The Fed's will either need to let them go under, or find a few trillion dollars sitting around for a bailout.
To: silentreignofheroes
Have no more than $100,000 in any one bank. This is not a problem for some.
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posted on
07/11/2008 4:42:16 PM PDT
by
RightWhale
(I will veto each and every beer)
To: gathersnomoss
Yes, the Fed should let the market fall. But wait, there is hope, for a Change. Do I see The Magic Negro?
LOL!!! That right there was funny my FRiend!
To: raybbr
Nope.
Actually, the bank I work for is rather solid and never got deep in the unusual mortgages - in fact they never really did them at all.
I am more concerned about the value of my home falling 50% for the next 20 years, and being stuck in this declining school district, with the State continuing to pump more Section 8 Ghetto trash in the area.
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posted on
07/11/2008 4:43:11 PM PDT
by
RockinRight
(I just paid $63 for gas. An icefield in Alaska is NOT the Grand Canyon. F--- the caribou.)
To: Fury
It’s a great time to be broke!
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posted on
07/11/2008 4:44:24 PM PDT
by
RockinRight
(I just paid $63 for gas. An icefield in Alaska is NOT the Grand Canyon. F--- the caribou.)
To: silentreignofheroes
Heard on a local talk station here that as many as 6000 banks are going under shortly,well see.I don't know who those banks are, but around here, they won't stop building new branch offices!
To: politicket
“The Fed’s will either need to let them go under, or find a few trillion dollars sitting around for a bailout.”
What will the Fed DO when just printing money to bail out worthless business ventures no longer works because the Dollar is worthless...
Perhaps as your post suggests...
To: politicket
I'm not saying that it will definitely happen, but you don't want to be making plans the day it does. We're raising chickens and growing quite a bit of our own produce.We live in a condo. How's that gonna work?
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posted on
07/11/2008 4:45:57 PM PDT
by
RockinRight
(I just paid $63 for gas. An icefield in Alaska is NOT the Grand Canyon. F--- the caribou.)
To: HAL9000
also can set up panic opens on monday, if one has guts of iron or OPM to use.
To: politicket
Did He lift it in 1929 too? Or are you using a bit much hyperbole?
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posted on
07/11/2008 4:47:01 PM PDT
by
RockinRight
(I just paid $63 for gas. An icefield in Alaska is NOT the Grand Canyon. F--- the caribou.)
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