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Former GOP Rep.: Iraq War was revenge
United Press International ^ | July 13, 2008

Posted on 07/13/2008 4:37:52 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

INDIANAPOLIS, July 13 (UPI) -- The 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq was motivated by revenge for an assassination attempt former President George H.W. Bush, a former GOP member of Congress says.

John Hostettler of Indiana also says the invasion was intended to aid Israel. Hostettler -- one of six House Republicans to vote against the 2002 resolution authorizing use of force in Iraq -- makes the claims in a new, self-published book, "Nothing for the Nation: Who Got What Out of Iraq," the Indianapolis Star reported Sunday.

"It cannot be debated that toppling Saddam was accomplished by means of a 'private compact' with political appointees and their underlings in the Pentagon 'to support' the ideals of 'partisans ... dedicated to another cause,'" Hostettler wrote.

The conservative Republican, who lost his bid for a seventh term last year, said he wrote the book because conservatives must acknowledge the invasion was inconsistent with the nation's foreign policy principles.

(Excerpt) Read more at upi.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: anotherbookwriter; gwot; hostettler; iraq; loser; notevenarino; rino; traitor

1 posted on 07/13/2008 4:37:52 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Same publisher as Scott McClennan? Sounds like the same whine.


2 posted on 07/13/2008 4:39:07 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq was motivated by revenge for an assassination attempt former President George H.W. Bush, a former GOP member of Congress says.


3 posted on 07/13/2008 4:41:25 PM PDT by library user (There's no sandwich like prawn sandwich.)
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To: John Hostettler

Screw you.

4 posted on 07/13/2008 4:42:01 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Somebody’s been reading their spam emails again...


5 posted on 07/13/2008 4:42:20 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: library user

You got that right!


6 posted on 07/13/2008 4:47:22 PM PDT by Cheetahcat
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To: hsalaw

Publius is Hostettler’s. No other books.

http://www.publiushouse.com/

PublicAffairs published McLellan’s book:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PublicAffairs


7 posted on 07/13/2008 4:47:30 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The war in Iraq was not revenge, It was for

OIL


8 posted on 07/13/2008 4:48:34 PM PDT by mountainlion (Concerned Conservative.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

What’d ol’ Hos thing about those Iraqis shooting at American planes. What’d he think about Oil for Food and dropping sanctions against good ol’ Saddam.

What a dipstick...


9 posted on 07/13/2008 4:49:49 PM PDT by JmyBryan
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To: Free ThinkerNY

What’d ol’ Hos thing about those Iraqis shooting at American planes. What’d he think about Oil for Food and dropping sanctions against good ol’ Saddam.

What a dipstick...


10 posted on 07/13/2008 4:49:59 PM PDT by JmyBryan
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To: I see my hands

Amen to that!


11 posted on 07/13/2008 4:50:42 PM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Oh, BS.

I keep hoping there are historians out there actually trying to write about history, Doug Feith has done a good first draft but gets completely ignored, but I despair that we are well on our way to a Stalinist type of revisionism.


12 posted on 07/13/2008 4:51:35 PM PDT by Bahbah (Typical white person)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"..makes the claims in a new, self-published book, ".."

Self-published book! Even the many left leaning publishers must think the theory is BS or they would be all over a juicy angle like this.!

13 posted on 07/13/2008 4:53:07 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Free ThinkerNY

BDS Bush Derangement Syndrome


14 posted on 07/13/2008 4:53:38 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Well, look at who is hoping to be the new darling of the left.


15 posted on 07/13/2008 4:56:47 PM PDT by lowbridge ("I have never learned to fight for my freedom. I was only good at enjoying it" - Van Den Boogaard)
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To: lowbridge

So is this guy unemployed now and needs some quick income?


16 posted on 07/13/2008 5:00:02 PM PDT by nobama08
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"It cannot be debated that toppling Saddam was accomplished by means of a 'private compact' with political appointees and their underlings in the Pentagon 'to support' the ideals of 'partisans ... dedicated to another cause,'" Hostettler wrote.

Sure it can. Just hang around here and it'll be debated all to pieces.

What he means is that it cannot be disproven. But the fact that he can't even make such a simple point clearly does not bode well for the book.

BTW, did you ever see so many parentheses in a single sentence?

17 posted on 07/13/2008 5:00:54 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: Sherman Logan

No, nor so many quotation marks either.


18 posted on 07/13/2008 5:05:37 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: mountainlion

Lot of good it done the us. I guess all the dipsticks are not in DC.


19 posted on 07/13/2008 5:09:25 PM PDT by squirt (POLITICIANS & DIAPERS NEED TO BE CHANGED, FOR THE SAME REASON)
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To: hsalaw

What you said.


20 posted on 07/13/2008 5:09:50 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“also says the invasion was intended to aid Israel.”

maybe but every time America tries to help anyone it always ends bad for us.


21 posted on 07/13/2008 5:12:29 PM PDT by edcoil
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Give me a frikkin’ break.

All a person has to do is take a good look at the map of the Middle East, consider that the Saudis needed US forces GONE from their territory but that Saddam needed to be held in check (or just plain removed) and Iran and Syria countered with Kuwait, Dubai and UAE allowing US forces way too small a strategic footprint to see the forces (beyond the intelligence that Saddam had illegal WMDs) that were truly at work.


22 posted on 07/13/2008 5:19:38 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Free ThinkerNY

John Hostettler < a deep thinker.


23 posted on 07/13/2008 5:23:39 PM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Free ThinkerNY
'The conservative Republican, who lost his bid for a seventh term last year, said he wrote the book because conservatives must acknowledge the invasion was inconsistent with the nation's foreign policy principles."

What a load.

I think that this chump in all likelihood, did not deserve the "honor" of elected office. He is not alone in that distinction.

24 posted on 07/13/2008 5:24:05 PM PDT by Radix (Think it is bad now? Wait until you have to press "2" for English!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
[ Iraq War was revenge ]

But "W" and his father were never that popular still are not.. If ONLY the republican party were THAT powerful..

25 posted on 07/13/2008 5:24:19 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
[ Iraq War was revenge ]

But "W" and his father were never that popular still are not.. If ONLY the republican party were THAT powerful..

26 posted on 07/13/2008 5:24:27 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: edcoil
maybe but every time America tries to help anyone it always ends bad for us.

So Germany, Japan, and South Korea being allies is bad for the US?

27 posted on 07/13/2008 5:27:54 PM PDT by DallasBiff
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To: Free ThinkerNY
...self-published book...

Over the years, I've written and published 15 books, all by known (e.g., MacMillan, Prentice-Hall, etc.) publishing houses. Anytime you see the three words above, what it's really saying is that the writer could not find a reputable publishing house that would fund the book. Publishers shy away when they feel they can't recoup their investment, often because they feel there's no interest in the topic, a similar book already exists, the book is poorly written, or the book is fiction passing as fact. I don't know what the case is here, but the fact that he's self-publishing kinda tells me that publishers didn't like what he had to say, for whatever reason. You may want to start looking for large grains of salt.

28 posted on 07/13/2008 5:38:13 PM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Revenge was obviously not the “motivation” but it provided legitimacy in the eyes of the neighbors over there. We needed to get a handle in the Gulf region and Iraq is central and easier than Iran. Moslems are very big on revenge and we would have been sorely diminished in stature in their eyes if we had not gone for that revenge. For that there was far less local area opposition to the invasion than there would otherwise have been. I am sure that the revenge was understood by the arabs as being necessary even if not actually operative.


29 posted on 07/13/2008 5:44:40 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: Loyal Buckeye

Nope not a deep thinker but a deep wanker...


30 posted on 07/13/2008 5:48:13 PM PDT by crazydad
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To: Free ThinkerNY

He’s right. And there were a number of others who said the same thing when we first got involved. [Which doesn’t mean that we ought not to have got involved.]


31 posted on 07/13/2008 5:58:32 PM PDT by curmudgeonII
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Removing a regime that attempted to assassinate a U.S. President doesn’t sound too incredibly unjustified.


32 posted on 07/13/2008 6:09:55 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Free ThinkerNY
So the leader of a foreign power who was violating terms of a ceasefire of a war he badly lost a few years ago, backed an assassination attempt against the president of the United States and we weren't going to do anything about it?
33 posted on 07/13/2008 6:35:27 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Barack Hussein Obama=Jimmy Carter Part Douche)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Self-published book huh? I guess most publishers feel the bush derangement syndrome market is pretty well saturated.


34 posted on 07/13/2008 6:35:34 PM PDT by bad company (How much easier is self-sacrifice than self-realization)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
makes the claims in a new, self-published book

OK...got my clue to click into another thread.....

35 posted on 07/13/2008 6:40:37 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Sounds like he’s been drinking the Paulite koolaid.


36 posted on 07/13/2008 7:04:54 PM PDT by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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To: hsalaw

I am guessing that this book will be just as successful financially and factually strong as Scott’s tell all book. AS IN NOT!!!


37 posted on 07/13/2008 7:16:13 PM PDT by princeofdarkness (Barack Hussein Obama- The Only Candidate Who Makes John Kerry Look Steadfast and Principled.)
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To: tanknetter
If we start drilling for our own oil, we do not need any of them, Pull 700 billion dollars out of the mideast and let them fight it out. I think we should send Obama as a referee
38 posted on 07/13/2008 8:53:15 PM PDT by Foolsgold (after all we got Daschel)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The war against Saddam Hussein was resumed because Bush #2 finally obeyed U.N. and confirming Congressional mandates. Diplomats and politicians laboriously parsed each phrase of these U.N. and Congressional resolutions, even though most now pretend they were cobbled together like some middle schooler’s term paper and without their knowledge.

The U.N.’s primary responsibility “to maintain international peace and security” directed U.N. passage of Resolution 678 “to use all necessary means to restore international peace and security in the area” after Hussein invaded Kuwait. The resolution did not instruct the U.S. lead coalition to expel Hussein from Kuwait. The broader term “in the area” used phraseology of the previous U.N. resolution authorizing coalition military action above the 38th parallel to disarm North Korea.

Resolution 687 incorporated 678 and 19 previous resolutions without amendment and offered Hussein a conditional ceasefire in 1991. Instead, he ignored the responsibility to submit a comprehensive declaration of all WMD stockpiles and programs, and missiles with greater than 150 kilometer range. He thwarted the inspection program envisioned by menacing, parrying, and finally expelling the inspectors in 1998. He also continued forbidden involvement in international terrorism. In response, Bush #1, U.N. and Clinton ignored their responsibilities to deal with his ongoing material breaches.

Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill envisioned re-establishment of collective security when founding the U.N. in San Francisco. Finally in 2003 the United States, heading a coalition exceeding that Churchill and Roosevelt assembled to confront Hitler’s Germany, toppled Hussein’s regime and forced the U.N. to confront the reason for its’ existence.


39 posted on 07/13/2008 9:48:19 PM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: DallasBiff
No, but that was a very long time ago. The Louisiana purchase we good as well but again long ago, I was speaking of current events.
40 posted on 07/14/2008 7:50:53 AM PDT by edcoil
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