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Senate majority leader calls for fed probe into FLDS
The Salt Lake Tribune ^ | July 14, 2008 | Brooke Adams

Posted on 07/14/2008 11:33:06 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy

Posted: 6:51 PM- Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will take his quest for a federal investigation of a polygamous sect before the Judiciary Committee next week.

The Nevada Democrat requested and received the July 24 hearing before the committee, during which he will present evidence to support a federal crime investigation of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, a spokesman said.

Jon Summers, who works in Reid's Washington, D.C., office, said Reid and others are set to testify.

"He is trying to step up federal enforcement against abuses that often occur in these polygamous sects," Summers said Monday.

Reid has pushed for several years to get the U.S. Attorney's Office to form a federal task force to look at polygamous sects and has renewed that effort because current Attorney General Michael B. Mukasey "seems more receptive to it," Summers said.

"We have the states working together to combat this, but assistance from the federal government could also be helpful to protect women and kids," he said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 110th; dc132; flds; josephsmith; lds; mormonism; reid
Calling all pro gov't raid, pro roundup of kids FReepers who love Senator Reid. You are in hog heaven!!
1 posted on 07/14/2008 11:33:06 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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To: Saundra Duffy

For those of you who missed the tank-looking vehicle and the sniper, here you go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAYWWPWzgzk

Senator Reid continues to make a complete fool out of himself in front of the whole world.


2 posted on 07/14/2008 11:39:14 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy
I am just going to say this: Sen Reid makes me sick

When I watch C-spann and this little,whiny, pathological liar speaks he makes my skin crawl.

I bet at family reunions the adults do not allow him any unsupervised interaction with the little kids.

He is a creep.

3 posted on 07/14/2008 11:42:07 PM PDT by highpockets
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To: Saundra Duffy

This guy should not be in the Senate! Nevada should recall this
idiot. There are a lot more important things to look into. Maybe the government stepped over their bounds!


4 posted on 07/14/2008 11:44:51 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: Saundra Duffy

I was expecting an investigation of the investigation. LOL


5 posted on 07/14/2008 11:51:16 PM PDT by TNdandelion (It's Buh-rack Uh-bama for uh hope and uh change.)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Cleanface is at it again.


6 posted on 07/14/2008 11:52:27 PM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: Saundra Duffy

As gas approaches $5, THIS is the most important subject for Reid?


7 posted on 07/14/2008 11:53:10 PM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: 6SJ7

Harry Reid is a multi millionaire....he doesnt care about us peasants.


8 posted on 07/14/2008 11:54:00 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Saundra Duffy
tank-looking vehicle

++++++++++++++++++++

The tank-looking vehicle is called an armored personal carrier.

No big cannon, like a tank,

just a large machine gun mounted on top.

Has there been any hard evidence about the child brides?

9 posted on 07/15/2008 12:01:38 AM PDT by fproy2222
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It really bothers me to have to come to the defense of some people that I find very repugnant, but Harry Ried, a man who is questionable on the issue of treason or sedition, now wants to take legal action against folks who have already had their Fourth Amendment rights violated.

Harry, screw you, you rotten bastard. We have law enforcement in this nation. We have a court system. And we have a U.S. Constitution.

What do you say we allow the tried and true means we have used for over 200 years to obtain justice, and you sit down and shut the hell up.


10 posted on 07/15/2008 12:22:34 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Annapolis, flight school, Congress, Senate, MIAs, Keating 5, Soros, Kerry... tried & found wanting!)
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To: BurbankKarl

True, but he does care about actually having to address real issues like our energy situation. So he’s doing his best to avoid it. That’s why he has to look for some issue where he can look like a big friend to young girls or children for the Oprah crowd.

Instead he looks like a bonehead who hasn’t clue one when it comes to the justice system.


11 posted on 07/15/2008 12:25:39 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Annapolis, flight school, Congress, Senate, MIAs, Keating 5, Soros, Kerry... tried & found wanting!)
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To: greyfoxx39

Well, well! Looks like Dingy Harry finally got one right!


13 posted on 07/15/2008 4:58:11 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: fproy2222
Has there been any hard evidence about the child brides?

Yep.


14 posted on 07/15/2008 5:03:21 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Don’t you have anything better to do than taunt FReepers with this fluff?

Take up knitting why don’t ya!


15 posted on 07/15/2008 5:21:51 AM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Thank you for posting this article.


16 posted on 07/15/2008 6:31:27 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Saundra Duffy
Please CHECK the EXCERPT BOX when you are only posting part of an article. Here's the rest of the story:

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will take his quest for a federal investigation of a polygamous sect before the Judiciary Committee next week.

The Nevada Democrat requested and received the July 24 hearing before the committee, during which he will present evidence to support a federal crime investigation of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, a spokesman said.

Jon Summers, who works in Reid's Washington, D.C., office, said Reid and others are set to testify. "He is trying to step up federal enforcement against abuses that often occur in these polygamous sects," Summers said Monday.

Reid has pushed for several years to get the U.S. Attorney's Office to form a federal task force to look at polygamous sects and has renewed that effort because current Attorney General Michael B. Mukasey "seems more receptive to it," Summers said.

"We have the states working together to combat this, but assistance from the federal government could also be helpful to protect women and kids," he said.

Reid sent Mukasey a letter in April asking for his help in fighting "pervasive criminal activity" occurring in polygamous groups - specifically, the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

Over the past two decades, the states of Utah and Arizona have prosecuted cases of sexual abuse, bigamy and sexual conduct with minors. The U.S. Department of Labor also has cited some FLDS businesses for violating child labor laws.

Reid contends that the FLDS are an organized crime syndicate that has engaged in bribery, extortion, fraud, embezzlement, witness tampering and labor violations. He wants the Justice Department to launch a federal racketeering investigation.

U.S. Attorney for Utah Brett Tolman has resisted that idea, saying that the federal government already is working with the states to investigate crimes in polygamous sects. Reid's office is helping to line up witnesses, including Stephen Singular, author of a book about the FLDS called "When Men Become Gods;" Pennie Peterson, a former FLDS member; Dan Fischer, a former FLDS member and Utah businessman who has funded lawsuits against the sect; and the attorney generals of Utah and Arizona.

Utah Attorney General Mark Shurtleff also has pushed for a racketeering investigation of the FLDS.

"He has asked the federal government to help deal with allegations of federal crimes," Paul Murphy said, who said Monday he was unsure if Shurtleff would appear before the committee.

Rod Parker, a Salt Lake attorney and FLDS spokesman, said the Senate committee should give equal time at the hearing to sect members.

"The important point is if they really want to find out what is happening, they need to hear from both sides," Parker said. "They can not take at face value these accusations. A lot of them are unfounded and the people making they don't know what they are talking about."

FLDS member and spokesman Willie Jessop was more blunt.

"I think the people they are calling [to testify] have the same amount of credibility as Rozita Swinton," said Jessop, referring to the Colorado Springs woman whose hoax call triggered a raid on a Texas ranch occupied by the sect.


Meanwhile . . .

An arrest warrant has been issued for Rozita Swinton — a person of interest in phone calls that might have sparked a raid on a polygamist group in Texas — after she didn't show up in court on the charges of violating probation.

Swinton, 33, failed to attend a hearing in Douglas County District Court on Monday for one of two false-reporting cases against her in Colorado. Court administrator Lori McKager said an arrest warrant was issued.

Swinton, of Colorado Springs, is accused of violating her probation stemming from her 2007 guilty plea for telling police she was a 16-year-old girl who was suicidal after giving birth.

Authorities have linked her to a phone number used to call a Texas crisis center that might have led to the raid in which more than 460 children were removed from the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints' Yearning for Zion ranch in Eldorado, Texas.

Swinton faces jail time if found guilty of violating probation.

source

17 posted on 07/15/2008 7:13:45 AM PDT by Alice in Wonderland (4-Hshootingsports.org)
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To: Alice in Wonderland

” FLDS member and spokesman Willie Jessop was more blunt.”

“I think the people they are calling [to testify] have the same amount of credibility as Rozita Swinton,”


Yeah, let’s see.

Rozita vs. Dr. Fischer

Dr. Fischer used to be an FLDS member. He takes in runaways from the FLDS and provides them a home and food. He is surrounded by ‘witnesses’ who have told him of what happened at the various FLDS sects, and YFZ Ranch.

Rozita studied books on the Mormons, FLDS, and books by Carolyn and Flora Jessop.

I’m going with the guy who was ‘inside’.


18 posted on 07/15/2008 8:24:00 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2

Don’t forget, Rozita is LDS herself.


19 posted on 07/15/2008 9:05:21 AM PDT by Alice in Wonderland (4-Hshootingsports.org)
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To: Alice in Wonderland

Thank you for reminding me.

She wasn’t FLDS, though.

She did, allegedly, harbor a grudge against the FLDS because of their ‘racial’ policy.


20 posted on 07/15/2008 9:25:27 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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testing making a post without a “to” line.


21 posted on 07/15/2008 10:06:12 AM PDT by fproy2222
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Has there been any hard evidence about the child brides?

=+=+=

Yep.

++++++++++++++

Not the cr—p that is posted, the real kind that will stand up in a court of law.

22 posted on 07/15/2008 10:09:37 AM PDT by fproy2222
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To: highpockets

While Americans are suffering at the pump and the mortgage crisis, etc., Reid wants to harass a pathetic bunch of religious people. Good going, U.S. Senate of the United States of America, like you have nothing better to do with your time and our tax money.


23 posted on 07/15/2008 12:05:47 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: UCANSEE2

What happened to Dr. Fischer’s two other wives and all the kids?


24 posted on 07/15/2008 12:09:39 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Alice in Wonderland

Rozita was a no show in court today and there’s a warrant out for her arrest.


25 posted on 07/15/2008 12:10:28 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Yes, see post #17.


26 posted on 07/15/2008 12:20:23 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland (4-Hshootingsports.org)
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To: Saundra Duffy
There have been long-standing accusations of spouse and child abuse within the FLDS, as well as allegations of mass welfare fraud, sexual molestation, statutory rape and, of course, bigamy. Partly because the FLDS controlled the entire Short Creek area and partly because "mum’s the word", action on these charges has been sporadic and ineffectual.

How long should this we sweep this under the rug?

27 posted on 07/15/2008 12:26:45 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland (4-Hshootingsports.org)
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To: Saundra Duffy

You asked me that before on another thread, and I answered you.


28 posted on 07/15/2008 4:40:22 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Alice in Wonderland

The TX CPS told everyone - they had a big news conference - that the FLDS boys they had rounded up had suffered broken bones and had been sexually molested. Horrors!! Only one problem, it was not true.

The TX CPS also told everyone - they had a big news conference - that they had captured 31 underage sexually abused little girls. Horrors!! Only one problem, it was not true.

TX CPS and TX law enforcement involved in this fiasco have lost all credibility and I don’t understand why you trust them so much. I do not trust the government. Period.


29 posted on 07/15/2008 6:13:59 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy
You didn't answer my question concerning allegations of mass welfare fraud, sexual molestation, statutory rape child and spousal abuse and, bigamy.

Instead, you made your standard accusations against CPS and Texas LEOs. They lied, they lied! Oh, the horrors!

How do you know they lied? There have been no hearings yet.

I don’t understand why you trust them so much. I do not trust the government.

Many of my family and friends have worked for the government in various capacities and not one of them had a hidden nefarious agenda.

Didn't you state recently that you ran for public office? Why would you want to be part of a government you seem to have no respect for? Politicians are the worse of the lot. They're the ones that can be bought and sold, not your run-of-the-mill CPS worker or cop who just collects a paycheck at the end of the week and looks forward to retirement.

30 posted on 07/15/2008 6:50:15 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland (4-Hshootingsports.org)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Senator Reid is a mormon and you are a BIGOT

You just dont like him brecause he is a mormon...

go on admit it...


31 posted on 07/15/2008 7:59:41 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Saundra Duffy

Reid wants to harass a pathetic bunch of religious people. Good going, U.S. Senate of the United States of America, like you have nothing better to do with your time and our tax money.
________________________________________

Reid is doing a wonderful job of protecting the women and children who are victims of the fLDS..

You just dont like Senator Reid because he is a mormon..


32 posted on 07/15/2008 8:01:44 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

“You just dont like Senator Reid because he is a mormon.”

I don’t like Reid because he’s a liberal.


33 posted on 07/15/2008 8:47:12 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy

I don’t like Reid because he’s a liberal.
____________________________________________

And I don’t like Romney because he’s a liberal.


34 posted on 07/15/2008 8:50:15 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Alice in Wonderland; colorcountry; Virginia Ridgerunner; JRochelle; svcw; bonfire; metmom; ...
Didn't you (Saundra Duffy) state recently that you ran for public office?

REALLY? Welll...well....THAT explains a lot of the vitriol against "public office-holders", doesn't it? Always the bridesmaid, never the bride, eh?

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35 posted on 07/16/2008 8:24:55 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tagline on vacation during the grand experiment.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

;)


36 posted on 07/16/2008 8:37:44 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tagline on vacation during the grand experiment.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

(smily face here)


37 posted on 07/16/2008 9:07:05 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: greyfoxx39

It’s on her “about” page, I must have read it there:

16. Ran for U.S. House of Reps. CA Dist 13, Primary 2000. Came in third place over all.


38 posted on 07/16/2008 9:20:47 AM PDT by Alice in Wonderland (4-Hshootingsports.org)
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To: svcw

My grandsdaughter’s 4th birthday...

Candace Lee is the youngest grand...

Doing birthday things...

:)


39 posted on 07/16/2008 10:29:43 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana
I love 4yo.
They cuddle and still think their grannys are the bomb (and aren't embarressed yet by singing out loud in the grocery story).
40 posted on 07/16/2008 10:43:09 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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