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District Gun Registration Starts Tomorrow
D.C. Wire ^ | 16 July 2008 | Marcia Davis

Posted on 07/16/2008 3:57:15 PM PDT by AreaMan

District Gun Registration Starts Tomorrow

D.C. police will start the gun registration process at 7 a.m. tomorrow, when it opens an office at police headquarters at 300 Indiana Ave. NW.

It is the start of the 180-day amnesty period in which residents may register handguns they have had illegally, or guns from other states.

An officer from the gun unit will meet the applicant at the door and take temporary possession of the gun to ensure safety at headquarters.

Officers will tag the gun and run ballistics tests before returning it to the owner. Paperwork indicating that registration is in process will be provided.

About 14 days later, after an FBI background check, the gun will be officially registered.

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; dcgunban; fenty; guncontrol; heller; secondamendment; shallnotbeinfringed
An officer from the gun unit will meet the applicant at the door and take temporary possession of the gun to ensure safety at headquarters.

ahh....the jokes never stop. Hi-larious

1 posted on 07/16/2008 3:57:16 PM PDT by AreaMan
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To: AreaMan
Or the gun owner could wait for the lawsuits and hopefully, enjoinment of large parts of the DC gun law.
2 posted on 07/16/2008 4:02:39 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: AreaMan

just revolvers right?


3 posted on 07/16/2008 4:02:49 PM PDT by rightwinggoth
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To: AreaMan
PLEASE! Somebody stop the madness!!!!!! I can't believe that official entity can't get the appellate court system to issue an injunction against this blatant violation of the the Supreme Court's ruling.

Taking a gun AWAY from an owner does NOT protect the INDIVIDUAL RIGHT to bear arms!

4 posted on 07/16/2008 4:03:35 PM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: AreaMan

Running the ballistics test as well. Seems like that would normally require a warrant.

DC obviously doesn’t respect the law.


5 posted on 07/16/2008 4:05:31 PM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama - The corruption hasn’t changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: Truth29

It is the start of the 180-day amnesty period in which residents may register handguns they have had illegally, or guns from other states.


Maybe it’s legal nit picking on my part, but, since the D.C. gun law was found unconstitutional, isn’t it improper for D.C. officials to say that they will give amnesty to someone who had a gun illegally? Since the law under which they were illegal was unconstitutional, there is no prior legal violation of gun laws for someone who had a gun.


6 posted on 07/16/2008 4:06:54 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: AreaMan

Good heavens. In most places when you turn in your gun ... you get a phone card or certificate to Toys ‘R Us.

Don’t do it DCers. Wait until the class action law suit which will probably emerge is over.

Of course, the criminals will be lined up at 9 AM in the morning, right? GRRRRR.


7 posted on 07/16/2008 4:07:35 PM PDT by Daffynition
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Maybe it’s legal nit picking on my part, but, since the D.C. gun law was found unconstitutional, isn’t it improper for D.C. officials to say that they will give amnesty...

True, amnesty from what? Since the idiotic gun-ban was unconstitutional what would a person need amnesty from?

8 posted on 07/16/2008 4:09:27 PM PDT by AreaMan
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To: AreaMan
Officers will tag the gun and run ballistics tests

Does this means that you can't register a non-functioning gun?

9 posted on 07/16/2008 4:09:50 PM PDT by TheMightyQuinn
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To: AreaMan
The comments are priceless.

"This is akin to giving up your free speech rights while the city cops decide whether what you say won't be a danger to society."

10 posted on 07/16/2008 4:10:16 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: driftdiver

The FBI check will include fingerprinting.


11 posted on 07/16/2008 4:11:21 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: AreaMan
Have you seen the proposal?

New Proposed D.C. Handgun Rules Unveiled

Mayor Adrian Fenty and the D.C. Council, along with Attorney General Peter Nickles and Police Chief Cathy Lanier, announced the details of early legislation that will regulate the registration and storage of handguns in post-Heller D.C.

“We continue to take every step we can to minimize handgun violence in the District,” said Mayor Fenty. “We must prevent handguns from falling into the wrong hands or being misused, while allowing District residents to exercise their Second Amendment rights under the Heller ruling.”

Public Safety Committee Chairman Phil Mendelson released a statement saying that these proposed rules are just a first step.

“Moving forward, the Council’s open and public deliberations on this important issue will give the residents of the District of Columbia as well as subject matter experts an opportunity to weigh in and help shape our new policies," Mendelson said.

Here's what they're proposing:

More from the press release on Chief Lanier's proposed rules for how D.C. residents must go about registering handguns below the jump.

Registration procedures for a handgun purchased for self-defense in a District residence:

1. A District resident who seeks to register a handgun must obtain an application form from MPD’s Firearms Registration Section and take it to a firearms dealer for assistance in completing it.

2. The applicant must submit photos, proof of residency and proof of good vision (such as a driver’s license or doctor’s letter), and pass a written firearms test.

3. If the applicant is successful on the test, s(he) must pay registration fees and submit to fingerprinting. MPD will file one set of fingerprints and submit the other to the Federal Bureau of Investigation for analysis and criminal background check.

4. MPD will notify the applicant whether all registration requirements are satisfied. At that point, the applicant returns to the Firearms Registration Section to complete the process and receive MPD’s seal on the application.

5. The applicant takes his or her completed application to a licensed firearm dealer to take delivery of the pistol. If the dealer is outside the District, the dealer transports the pistol to a licensed dealer in the District to complete the transaction.

6. The applicant takes the pistol to the Firearms Registration Section for ballistics testing. When testing is complete, the applicant may retrieve the pistol and take it home.

Registration procedures for a handgun legally registered in another jurisdiction, or a handgun possessed in the District but not registered:


1. Applicants bringing a firearm from another jurisdiction into the District must transport it immediately to the Firearms Registration Section, or notify the Section that they will do so within 48 hours.

2. MPD will allow the registration of previously possessed handguns other than those that qualify as “machine guns” under District law (that is, all automatics and most semiautomatic pistols) for the next six months. During that period, the Office of the Attorney General has established an Amnesty policy not to prosecute anyone for unregistered possession of such a handgun when it is brought to MPD for registration, although those who have committed other crimes with firearms of course remain subject to prosecution.

3. Regulations for registering handguns in either of these two scenarios are similar to those for newly-purchased handguns, but do not require the assistance of a licensed firearms dealer.

Rules for transporting firearms legally within the District:

1. When the law allows transporting a firearm legally, the owner must transport it unloaded and securely wrapped in a package, with the package visible in plain view.

Provisions for becoming a licensed firearms dealer in the District:


1. Firearms dealers must first be licensed by the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.

2. Potential firearms dealers must be eligible to register guns in the District and eligible under federal law to sell them.

3. Firearms dealer licenses will be valid for one year.

4. Applications for dealer licenses will include a sworn or affirmed statement by the applicant, and may require photographs and fingerprints.

5. Firearms dealers must also comply with other District licensing and zoning requirements, such as having a Basic Business License and certificate of occupancy.


12 posted on 07/16/2008 4:16:11 PM PDT by Daffynition
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To: AreaMan
, or guns from other states.

The District of Columbia has declared it's self a state?

13 posted on 07/16/2008 4:20:17 PM PDT by TYVets
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To: Daffynition
Thanks for the details.

Geez...why don't they just say the gun must be then be encased in lucite so as to "increase safety"

14 posted on 07/16/2008 4:23:13 PM PDT by AreaMan
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To: AreaMan
It is the start of the 180-day amnesty period in which residents may register handguns they have had illegally, or guns from other states.

Haaaa Haaa! What f-ing fools these nitwits are. Register nothing and lock & load. The concerns are not as much with criminals, but with an out of control Government.

15 posted on 07/16/2008 4:29:54 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: AreaMan
It is the start of the 180-day amnesty period in which residents may register handguns they have had illegally, or guns from other states.

Haaaa Haaa! What f-ing fools these nitwits are. Register nothing and lock & load. The concerns are not as much with criminals, but with an out of control Government.

16 posted on 07/16/2008 4:29:58 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: AreaMan

No thanks. DC can shove their rules as far as I’m concerned. I’d prefer to break the law than to submit to this joke they are trying to call registration. Do they really think that criminals are going to go through this ridiculous procedure? They haven’t learned a thing and they should be sued over and over again until they comply.


17 posted on 07/16/2008 4:30:31 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: Daffynition
Better yet, why don't they just mandate bullets made of Nerf. Problem solved.

Instead of bloody violence there will be hillarity...I'm sure the crooks will comply. right?

18 posted on 07/16/2008 4:30:55 PM PDT by AreaMan
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To: AreaMan

You are very welcome.

Or why don’t we just keep the firearms at the police station ... and when someone enters your home, you go down and check them out like a library book, for defense use at home?

This HAS to be challenged. This is all about DC police/politicians not wanting to relinquish control after the SCOTUS decision. It stinks.


19 posted on 07/16/2008 4:33:07 PM PDT by Daffynition
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To: AreaMan

Just goes to show the citizens of the U.S. how really uptight the muncipal employees of the capital are about guns .... but ignore all the other things which can be used to inflict bodily harm!

The new proposed regulations will probably fail the test of reasonableness and should be the subject of a class-action law suit for invasion of privacy and compliance with the second amendment and the recent opinion of the Supreme Court.

Talk about overkill.

If you make the process so difficult and time-consuming, maybe, people will just ignore the process.

Criminals won’t get finger-printed anyway so they are really targeting law-abiding citizens and not the ones that are doing the vast majority of the shootings.


20 posted on 07/16/2008 4:35:39 PM PDT by rollin
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To: Joan Kerrey

I predict massive numbers of people having their handguns held for extended periods of time.


21 posted on 07/16/2008 4:36:08 PM PDT by xDGx
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To: AreaMan
"ahh....the jokes never stop. Hi-larious "

You if you think that is funny, poke your browser here for some really funny stuff.

Semper Fi
An Old Man

22 posted on 07/16/2008 4:45:06 PM PDT by An Old Man ("The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they suppress." Douglas)
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To: Joan Kerrey

I am a DC resident and am currently exercising my Second Amendment rights to defend my property, family and person in accordance with the Heller decision. The new restrictions passed by City Council are nullified by the fact that they incorporate requirements that were struck down by the Supreme Court as being unconstitutional.


23 posted on 07/16/2008 4:48:43 PM PDT by ConservativeMajority (If war isn't the answer, you're asking the wrong question.)
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To: AreaMan
incompetent nitwits

but what else is new?

24 posted on 07/16/2008 4:49:32 PM PDT by Gritty (An unarmed man must depend on someone else to defend him and then becomes their subject- Machievelli)
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To: AreaMan
180 day amnesty for illegal guns under an illegal law? They still don't have a clue!
25 posted on 07/16/2008 4:56:55 PM PDT by mountainlion (Concerned Conservative.)
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To: Daffynition
Firearms in the home must be stored unloaded and disassembled, and secured with either a trigger lock, gun safe, or similar device. The new law will allow an exception for a firearm while it is being used against an intruder in the home.

This is beyond absurd. Disassembled and unloaded? How long will it take someone, under stress, to unlock, assemble and load their gun? I'm sure the home invaders will patiently wait while a homeowner arms him or herself.

26 posted on 07/16/2008 4:59:30 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Daffynition
Bruck's favorite clause:

Firearms in the home must be stored unloaded and disassembled, and secured with either a trigger lock, gun safe, or similar device. The new law will allow an exception for a firearm while it is being used against an intruder in the home.

So it can only be assembled, loaded, and "unsecured" while it's being used to blow an intruder into the next life!

27 posted on 07/16/2008 5:00:13 PM PDT by VoiceOfBruck (www.justiceforterry.org)
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To: An Old Man

I enjoy reading Clayton Cramer’s common sense articles.
I have always said, If he doesn’t post on this forum, he should.


28 posted on 07/16/2008 5:03:38 PM PDT by labette ( Doctor of Thinkology)
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To: AreaMan

They want people who have bought guns legally to surrender them to the police so they can do a ballistics record and fingerprint the owners, then maybe they will give them back?
Sounds like something the Nazis would have tried. Ill just bet they give them back and I bet the thugs in da hood are there bright and early with their junk.
I guess anyone stupid enough to show up deserves to have his gun confiscated. Ill bet there are a bunch of cops munching donuts and comparing the real nice weapons they got for free.


29 posted on 07/16/2008 5:15:44 PM PDT by Snurple
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To: VoiceOfBruck; Disambiguator
Let's look at Scalia [again] in the Heller decision:

Justice Antonin Scalia, writing for the majority:

"As the quotations earlier in this opinion demonstrate, the inherent right of self-defense has been central to the Second Amendment right. The handgun ban amounts to a prohibition of an entire class of 'arms' that is overwhelmingly chosen by American society for that lawful purpose. The prohibition extends, moreover, to the home, where the need for defense of self, family and property is most acute. Under any of the standards of scrutiny that we have applied to enumerated constitutional rights, banning from the home 'the most preferred firearm in the nation to keep and use for protection of one's home and family,' would fail constitutional muster."

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Scalia, on the requirement that handguns be kept inoperable:

"We must also address the District's requirement (as applied to respondent's handgun) that firearms in the home be rendered and kept inoperable at all times. This makes it impossible for citizens to use them for the core lawful purpose of self-defense and is hence unconstitutional."

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Scalia, on the scope of the ruling:

"Nothing in our opinion should be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms."

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Scalia's concluding remarks:

"Undoubtedly some think that the Second Amendment is outmoded in a society where our standing army is the pride of the nation, where well-trained police forces provide personal security, and where gun violence is a serious problem. That is perhaps debatable, but what is not debatable is that it is not the role of this Court to pronounce the Second Amendment extinct."

Seems clear that the DC ordinance is unconsitutional.

30 posted on 07/16/2008 5:35:00 PM PDT by Daffynition
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To: Daffynition
Seems clear that the DC ordinance is unconsitutional.

And all we do is whine about it!

31 posted on 07/16/2008 5:42:05 PM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: Daffynition

“Firearms in the home must be stored unloaded and disassembled, and secured with either a trigger lock, gun safe, or similar device. The new law will allow an exception for a firearm while it is being used against an intruder in the home.”

Isn’t that expressly prohibited in the SC decision?


32 posted on 07/16/2008 5:45:12 PM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama - The corruption hasn’t changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: Snurple

Snurple, ballistic fingerprinting doesn’t work .. ask Maryland. Is that why California went to microstamping? [another failure in the making]

We all know the ways around these laws... replace barrels, files, yada. These laws are absurd.


33 posted on 07/16/2008 5:46:16 PM PDT by Daffynition
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To: Joan Kerrey

They shouldn’t be sued, they should be tarred and feathered and then run out of the country.


34 posted on 07/16/2008 5:49:31 PM PDT by driftdiver (No More Obama - The corruption hasn’t changed despite all our hopes.)
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To: AreaMan

I’m looking forward to the ACLU filing in opposition to this obvious infringement of an individual right...

.........still waiting......


35 posted on 07/16/2008 5:49:51 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion)
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To: driftdiver

I don’t think we’ll know unless it is tested.


36 posted on 07/16/2008 6:21:18 PM PDT by Daffynition
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To: AreaMan

bump


37 posted on 07/16/2008 7:42:27 PM PDT by lowbridge ("I have never learned to fight for my freedom. I was only good at enjoying it" - Van Den Boogaard)
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