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DC Rejects Heller Handgun Application
Me - Vanity, Sorry Mods | 17 July 2008 | Me

Posted on 07/17/2008 9:20:21 AM PDT by RKV

Heller attempted to register a semi-auto. Turned down. Source not able to be posted here (Gannett)


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: banglist; dc; denied; heller; rkba; secondamendment
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1 posted on 07/17/2008 9:20:22 AM PDT by RKV
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To: RKV

Popcorn futures are heading skyward . . .


2 posted on 07/17/2008 9:21:37 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: RKV

I want the contract to print “Kick Me” signs for the DC government.

What fools.


3 posted on 07/17/2008 9:22:17 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: RKV

I guess they STILL can’t spell LAWSUIT!


4 posted on 07/17/2008 9:22:41 AM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: RKV

Violation of constitutional rights. The NRA needs to organize a March on Washington. Better yet, a boycott of Washington.


5 posted on 07/17/2008 9:24:43 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Does Obama know ANYONE who likes America, capitalism, or white people?)
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To: unixfox

Man, I want DC sued back to the stone ages. Federal civil rights raps for the whole council. Striped suits and hard time.


6 posted on 07/17/2008 9:25:46 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: RKV

Semi-auto! Why that’s defined as a “machinegun”. Did they confiscate the weapon and throw him under the jail?


7 posted on 07/17/2008 9:26:04 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: RKV

Can the DC city officials who are doing this be arrested for disobeying a court order?

Yes, I am completely serious.


8 posted on 07/17/2008 9:26:46 AM PDT by frankiep (Every socialist is a disguised dictator - Ludwig von Mises)
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To: RKV

You can post a link to the story even if it is from the blacklist.


9 posted on 07/17/2008 9:27:47 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: TexasRedeye; All

Don’t know the outcome. Google up WUSA9 and look at breaking news for what we do have.


10 posted on 07/17/2008 9:28:25 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: RKV

writ of mandamus, ask for atty fees, kick `em to the curb.


11 posted on 07/17/2008 9:30:26 AM PDT by tumblindice (Obama could take a bath in a shotgun barrel)
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To: Abathar

OK

http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=74036&catid=158


12 posted on 07/17/2008 9:30:29 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: frankiep
There was no court "order."

The President and/or Attorney General should order US Marshals to arrest the DC criminals for violating Mr Heller's Civil Rights.

13 posted on 07/17/2008 9:32:15 AM PDT by ASA Vet
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To: RKV

DC government likes living on the edge.


14 posted on 07/17/2008 9:32:22 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (In Cleveland: No one may kill a mouse in the streets without a hunting lisence)
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To: RKV

He, and other DC taxpayers, should sue the city and the city employees who are misusing taxpayer money trying to circumvent the Constitution leading to additional unnecessary litigation and legal fees.


15 posted on 07/17/2008 9:32:28 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: tumblindice

Title 18, U.S.C., Section 241 and 242


16 posted on 07/17/2008 9:32:58 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: Oztrich Boy

And Heller is a HERO.


17 posted on 07/17/2008 9:33:34 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: TexasRedeye
He didn't take the gun with him, I think he was afraid to because it was a semi-auto. He also brought his lawyer with him and is getting signatures to run for a house seat.:

"Heller, Duggan reports, was at the doors at 6:30 this morning. He did not bring his weapon with him as D.C. regulations require, however. He did raise his frustrations with the District's continued ban on semiautomatic weapons. It's that issue that city officials and gun rights advocates both say is likely to land the city back in court at some point.

But we're burying the real news here. It seems that Heller may not have brought his gun with him to register, but he was armed with a load of candidate petitions, Duggan said.

Seems that Heller is planning to run for the House seat currently held by Eleanor Holmes Norton. Heller is seeking signatures to be on the ballot as a libertarian candidate."

18 posted on 07/17/2008 9:33:44 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: RKV
"A spokesman for the DC Police says the gun was a bottom-loading weapon, and according to their interpretation, all bottom-loading guns are outlawed because they are grouped with machine guns."

Huh?
19 posted on 07/17/2008 9:33:59 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: RKV

New lawsuit by Heller!


20 posted on 07/17/2008 9:34:37 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Heller clearly has cause for a follow-up to his suit against the city — considering that this denial is pretty much a refusal to obey a direct order from the USSC, how expedited can this case be made?


21 posted on 07/17/2008 9:34:38 AM PDT by kevkrom ("This is not the [fill in the blank] that I knew" - Barack Obama)
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To: jaydubya2

Yep. That’s the DC “legal” definition.


22 posted on 07/17/2008 9:35:02 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: RKV
From the article:

according to their interpretation, all bottom-loading guns are outlawed because they are grouped with machine guns.

23 posted on 07/17/2008 9:35:51 AM PDT by Bush_Democrat (Ex-Dem since 2001 *Folding@Home for the Gipper - Join the FReeper Folders*)
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To: RKV

Washington Post has a very different story about what happened -

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/dc/2008/07/gun_registration_started_down.html


24 posted on 07/17/2008 9:35:59 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

I’ll send money to the legal defense fund. All Freepers should consider it.


25 posted on 07/17/2008 9:36:03 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Hey Dave, check this out!


26 posted on 07/17/2008 9:36:11 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: ASA Vet
There was no court "order."

Yes there was -- in the Heller decision, DC was specifically ordered to issue the permit Heller originally requested, and they have deliberately failed to do so.

27 posted on 07/17/2008 9:36:26 AM PDT by kevkrom ("This is not the [fill in the blank] that I knew" - Barack Obama)
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To: RKV

What do you give gluttons for punishment?
second helpings!


28 posted on 07/17/2008 9:37:23 AM PDT by tumblindice (Obama could take a bath in a shotgun barrel)
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To: jaydubya2

all bottom-loading guns are outlawed because they are grouped with machine guns."

I guess the Lewis is OK.

29 posted on 07/17/2008 9:37:48 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: tumblindice

I want the beatings to continue until the morale improves. ;>)


30 posted on 07/17/2008 9:38:07 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: RKV
"all bottom-loading guns are outlawed because they are grouped with machine guns."

I don't know how they came to that conclusion. Bottom loading does in no way make a fully automatic. (I know you know that)
31 posted on 07/17/2008 9:38:08 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: RKV
Like all communists they will only give up their hold on the people when they are slapped down hard. They refuse to believe the Heller ruling means what it says.

I am sure Heller and the NRA were expecting this. I am sure more law suits will follow.

IMO, this is a delaying tactic by DC. They are hoping that Obama will be elected and then nominate communist judges for the supreme court bench and the heller ruling will be overturned before they actually have to grant anyone their civil rights.

32 posted on 07/17/2008 9:38:31 AM PDT by calex59
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To: RKV
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33 posted on 07/17/2008 9:38:51 AM PDT by Ghengis (Of course freedom is free. If it wasn't, it would be called expensivedom. ~Cindy Sheehan 11/11/06)
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To: Bush_Democrat

“all bottom-loading guns are outlawed”

So the Winchester Model 70 bolt action is a machine gun.
Look out white-tail!


34 posted on 07/17/2008 9:39:19 AM PDT by tumblindice (Obama could take a bath in a shotgun barrel)
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To: jaydubya2

Legal definitions aren’t necessarily the same as common sense definitions. The Heller decision said “pistol” IIRC, so revolver or semi shouldn’t matter.


35 posted on 07/17/2008 9:39:51 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: RKV

Oooohhhhhh....

Clock cleanin time!!!


36 posted on 07/17/2008 9:40:08 AM PDT by djf (Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. Those who can't teach get elected.)
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To: djf

One would hope.


37 posted on 07/17/2008 9:40:52 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: RKV

38 posted on 07/17/2008 9:41:44 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: RKV

DC is about to lose and lose and lose again.


39 posted on 07/17/2008 9:41:48 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: jaydubya2
Semi-auto STEN guns are legal.
40 posted on 07/17/2008 9:41:56 AM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

WOW, I thought they would at least give Heller one. I am sure someone in the DC legal dept just said “WE DID WHAT?”. They were directly ordered to give Heller a licence by the Supreme Court. Fentey is going to go down as the greatest defender of the 2nd amendment in history. Not since the civil rights battles of the 50’s and 60’s, has a government officials so directly defied the Supreme Court. Again WOW!


41 posted on 07/17/2008 9:42:03 AM PDT by ClayinVA
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To: tumblindice

And my 50 year old Winchester Model 12.


42 posted on 07/17/2008 9:42:09 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: RKV

This business by DC is just bizarre. I don’t understand why they’re insisting on drawing the line between revolvers and autos. It doesn’t make sense to make ~that~ the issue. They’re going to lose again and they have to know it. So why try this nonsense?


43 posted on 07/17/2008 9:42:56 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Ghengis

“Here’s Your Sign”

You got that right.


44 posted on 07/17/2008 9:43:29 AM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: ClayinVA

Fenty is the gift that keeps on giving. He’s too ornery and stupid to remember the first rule of holes.


45 posted on 07/17/2008 9:43:36 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: frankiep
Can the DC city officials who are doing this be arrested for disobeying a court order?

No- they're going to claim that the new firearm law in DC meets the requirement of the Heller decision, and the whole thing is going to be re-litigated until the cows come home.

As a DC taxpayer, I'm outraged that my tax dollars are being used to continuously pay for these firearms lawsuits. The District should stop playing games and just pass a reasonable firearms law that clearly meets the requirements of Heller.

46 posted on 07/17/2008 9:43:40 AM PDT by Citizen Blade
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To: Citizen Blade

One option for the Supes is to appoint a special master over the City Council. Basically it removes the subject from their legislative and executive power.


47 posted on 07/17/2008 9:45:20 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: RKV

And my Winchester Model 50. Why, according to them I’ll be
able to take down a covey of quail in, oh, about 1.3 seconds.
Cool!


48 posted on 07/17/2008 9:45:28 AM PDT by tumblindice (Obama could take a bath in a shotgun barrel)
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To: beyondashadow

ping!


49 posted on 07/17/2008 9:45:47 AM PDT by whatexit
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To: RKV

United States Code
TITLE 42 - THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELFARE
CHAPTER 21 - CIVIL RIGHTS
SUBCHAPTER I - GENERALLY

U.S. Code as of: 01/19/04
Section 1983. Civil action for deprivation of rights

Every person who, under color of any statute, ordinance,
regulation, custom, or usage, of any State or Territory or the
District of Columbia, subjects, or causes to be subjected, any
citizen of the United States or other person within the
jurisdiction thereof to the deprivation of any rights, privileges,
or immunities secured by the Constitution and laws, shall be liable
to the party injured in an action at law, suit in equity, or other
proper proceeding for redress, except that in any action brought
against a judicial officer for an act or omission taken in such
officer’s judicial capacity, injunctive relief shall not be granted
unless a declaratory decree was violated or declaratory relief was
unavailable. For the purposes of this section, any Act of Congress
applicable exclusively to the District of Columbia shall be
considered to be a statute of the District of Columbia.


50 posted on 07/17/2008 9:46:21 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil.)
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