Posted on 07/18/2008 10:01:19 AM PDT by kellynla
Washington -- Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff on Monday blamed tightened security on the U.S.-Mexico border for increased violence there, and he said the border probably will not be fully secured until 2011, two years after President Bush leaves office.
"(Increased violence) is what typically happens when you start to enforce and make it harder to fight over the shrinking pie, so to speak, and who gets the best opportunity to exploit the additional space that's left," Chertoff said at a news conference at the U.S. Customs and Border Protection headquarters in Washington, D.C. on Monday.
"That's a good sign," he said. "The bad news is, it's created a lot of violence and created a lot of havoc, particularly in Mexico."
Chertoff added that quelling the violence will require working with the Mexican government - and millions of dollars from American taxpayers if Congress funds the Merida Initiative. The multi-year proposal would give Mexico $500 million and $50 million to Central America in 2008 to fight the drug cartels - another $450 million and $100 million respectively will be given for fiscal year 2009.
"We have to recognize that both countries (U.S. and Mexico) have a common interest in securing the border," Chertoff said.
When asked by Cybercast News Service if the border will be secure by the end of the Bush administration, Chertoff was upbeat but implied that finishing the job will fall to the next president of the United States.
"I think we will have made a dramatic amount of progress," he said. "I think if we continue on the course we've set now we can get the border secure ... sometime in 2011."
(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...
I got my tax refund over 2 months ago and didn’t notice. It happens.
ping
Yeah. "Dramatic". Riiiight.
Over ONE BILLION DOLLARS in the next two years given to Mexico & South America down the toilet. Money that would be better served by BUILDING THE DAMN FENCE and increasing the size of the Border Patrol...
gezzzzzzzzzzzzzz...where do we find these idiots who work in D.C.!!!
And trust in Chertof will be secured...
...well, never.
There was a time when I thought this guy was one of the good ones.
He was jabbering away on Cspan today, I had the Mute button on,, I guess I didn’t miss much. ;-)
He was jabbering away on Cspan today, I had the Mute button on,, I guess I didn’t miss much.”
Well like my father used to say “If their lips are moving...they’re lying!” LOL
It’s very important to ignore stuff that might allow you to make an informed opinion.
He belongs to the BureaucRatic party.
probably stay on after January 2009.. as will Gates. (if we’re lucky)
Cherty seems to suffer from some bizarre form of political Tourrettes syndrome.
I'd kick that moron's ass up and down the street before I threw him in jail for national security negligence.
lol .. Hey, where’s your sarcasm tag? How rude.
Ya’ callin’ me rude?
lol no more than usual.
The only thing that makes him in any way interesting is that President Bush fires men like General Pace but keeps dolts like Chertof in power.
I wouldn’t call it whining, as people understandably are frustrated. The belief that Chertoff can skip into the room and wave his magic wand is a little over the top, however.
Now that statement has an element of irony to it because usually, whenever someone claims Chertoff has said something, I discover he's said the opposite. There's an element of that here as well: witness the attribution in the text and compare it to the headline.
“Chertoff was upbeat but implied that finishing the job will fall to the next president of the United States.”.....
You bet!...and if it’s Barry the job will fall through the floor.
Was it Chertoff who said it was not possible to secure the border? Maybe I am thinking of somebody else.
“It’s very important to ignore stuff that might allow you to make an informed opinion...
wouldn’t call it whining, as people understandably are frustrated. The belief that Chertoff can skip into the room and wave his magic wand is a little over the top, however.”
Let, me ask you something...if you were Head of Homeland Security, how long would it take you to SECURE the Mexican border?
One year?
Two years?
Three years?
Four years?
Five years?
Not a trick question but don’t pull a muscle trying to come up with an answer.
9/11 happened almost SEVEN FRIGGIN YEARS AGO and the border is about as secure as your “mouth!”
See...I can be as rude as you ...BOY!
After Pearl Harbor the nation was secured a lot quicker than a decade after the fact.
“After Pearl Harbor the nation was secured a lot quicker than a decade after the fact.”
Yea, well the Bushbots ‘round here evidently haven’t realized yet that we are at war...
“America is not at war. The Marine Corps is at war; America is at the mall.”
Anonymous
Acting rude (toward me) is meaningless. Let me ask you: say Congress passes a bill and the President signs it . . . let’s call it the “Secure Fence Act,” or whatever. Let’s then say Congress removes the funding for Act after it is signed into law. What should Chertoff’s response be? Grab a shovel and head for the border himself?
“Let me ask you”
no genius...answer my question first and then I’ll answer yours...or do you need some more time to come up with an answer! LMAO
lol...ya. OK.
Sorry. I forget that some people think that interacting on an internet bulletin board is the equivalent of playing “H-O-R-S-E.” So let me answer your question: as director of DHS and tasked to build a fence, and appropriated zero funds to build the fence, then the amount of time that will elapse before the fence is built is equal to infinity.
You fell for the headline. NewsMax, no less.
No, seriously: “lol...OK”
Wrong answer
But you keep coming on my threads and positng your rude remarks...
just gives credence to my tagline! LMAO
What’s “wrong” about my answer? At this point, all I see is “I didn’t receive the answer I wanted.”
“appropriated zero funds to build the fence?”
WRONG!
Now, run along and go bother someone else with your blathering posts...
Ah, so now we’ve gotten to the point where you claim some expertise regarding the matter. So let’s have it.
“stupid question?”
you may think securing the border is “stupidity” but those of us who love our country and want it to remain secure and realize that we are at war; don’t find anything “stupid” about her security.
And I deinitely don’t need any “civics lessons” from the likes of you.
And I’m sure as hell not your “darlin”...asshole!
How come the border crossings by illegals are way down and a fence is now being built?
This is probably a good time to remind you that I am waiting for an answer to my #26. Deal’s a deal.
yea, well, genius, you still haven’t answered mine...
how long will it take you?
in the meantime...what part of “quit bothering me don’t you comprehend?”
I answered it in my comment #29. You simply didn't like the answer. So pony up.
“How come the border crossings by illegals are way down and a fence is now being built?”
Is the fence complete?
Is the border secure?
noooooooooooooooooooo....
In fact they are pulling OFF what NG troops that were deployed to the border...
of course that’s gonna help matters dramatically now isn’t it!
your premise was wrong, genius
“there were funds appropriated for the fence”
therefore your answer is moronic!
gezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
How dumb can Chertoff be?
Again,
YOU SAID “appropriated zero funds to build the fence?”
THAT IS WRONG!
gezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...now quit bothering me!
I said nothing about securing the border being stupid, I said the question about how long it would take was stupid considering Congress pulled the plug on the funding. It is clear you don’t understand civics or you would know that you can’t build a fence without funding, so yes you do need a lesson and it also looks like you could use a lesson in reading comprehension and keeping conversations in context. And for the record, I personally don’t get bent out of shape about name-calling if that is what trips your trigger, but profanity is clearly not allowed on this forum, so cut it out.
Hard to hurt the feelings of open border pimps.<>
Aw, shucks . . . is it that time of the month? I can’t relate, I’m not a woman.
I presented a hypothetical . . . it’s not my fault you are not bright enough to treat as such. You wanted to play H-O-R-S-E. Now pony up.
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