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Looking to Mid-Atlantic for Oil
baltimoresun.com ^ | July 20, 2008 | Matthew Hay Brown

Posted on 07/20/2008 6:30:47 AM PDT by kellynla

Get Kathy Phillips talking about oil exploration off the Mid-Atlantic, and she conjures a scene right out of the Gulf of Mexico, with drilling platforms, pipelines and pumping stations overwhelming the shoreline.

"People here on the East Coast don't have a clue what it means to have offshore drilling," said Phillips, an environmental activist with the Assateague Coastal Trust. "It's dirty business. The water is dirty, and your beaches end up being dirty, and you're dealing with globules of oil and globs of tar.

"I'm not even talking about oil spills. I'm talking about day-to-day operations."

With energy costs continuing to climb, politicians in Washington are again casting their gaze to the waters of the Mid-Atlantic, and the oil and natural gas reserves that geologists believe lie beneath. New talk of offshore exploration has the region's environmentalists on edge.

"It's definitely the wrong way to go," said Brad Heavner, state director of Environment Maryland. "You can't drill with zero impact."

The decision by President Bush to lift an executive order against exploring the Outer Continental Shelf is putting new pressure on Congress to end its own offshore ban. Republicans and some Democrats are backing legislation that would give coastal states the authority to allow drilling off their shores, in return for a share of the royalties the industry pays the federal government.

For now, the prospect of oil rigs off Ocean City remains distant. Gov. Martin O'Malley and Sens. Benjamin L. Cardin and Barbara A. Mikulski, all Democrats, oppose drilling off Maryland's Atlantic beaches. The state's eight House members, Republicans and Democrats alike, voted together in 2006 to uphold the congressional ban.

But in Virginia, where lease royalties have been seen as a way to fund state transportation needs, Democratic Gov. Tim Kaine favors exploring for natural gas.

(Excerpt) Read more at baltimoresun.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: drilling; energy; environment; gasoline; gasprices; kaine; naturalgas; offshoredrilling; oil
"Our national security requires that we work responsibly toward energy independence," Webb said. "In order to address our nation's energy crisis, all options need to be on the table."
1 posted on 07/20/2008 6:30:47 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: thackney
"It's dirty business. The water is dirty, and your beaches end up being dirty, and you're dealing with globules of oil and globs of tar.

"I'm not even talking about oil spills. I'm talking about day-to-day operations."


I figured you might want to respond to this.
2 posted on 07/20/2008 6:32:29 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla
"It's dirty business. The water is dirty, and your beaches end up being dirty, and you're dealing with globules of oil and globs of tar.

Delusional. Which is typical.

3 posted on 07/20/2008 6:33:47 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: kellynla

“”People here on the East Coast don’t have a clue what it means to have offshore drilling,” said Phillips, an environmental activist with the Assateague Coastal Trust. “It’s dirty business. The water is dirty, and your beaches end up being dirty, and you’re dealing with globules of oil and globs of tar.”

Yeah, right. Maybe once upon a time, but not now. Nice scare tactics with little relation to the facts. In other words, par for the course for an econut libdolt. And of course the MSM rag repeats the statements as unchallenged fact. Sigh.


4 posted on 07/20/2008 6:34:39 AM PDT by piytar
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To: kellynla

“republicans and democrats”
Maryland, contact your congress!!

Pelosi AmericanVoices@mail.house.gov

Drill here
Drill now
Pay less


5 posted on 07/20/2008 6:34:48 AM PDT by mouse1 ("whitey")
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To: kellynla
This country was built with sweat, grime and blood. Elite liberals think everything we have comes to us easy but they forget the generations of Americans who had to work hard to create a better life in our country. They want to roll back all the progress we've made in the past two centuries - "environmentalism" - is simply a smokescreen for their neo-Luddite allergy to all that has made America great.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

6 posted on 07/20/2008 6:37:04 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: TLI
The water is dirty, and your beaches end up being dirty, and you're dealing with globules of oil and globs of tar.

That might be an improvement for Ocean City.

7 posted on 07/20/2008 6:42:39 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit
Hey sistuh - at least that would help to offset those carbons you're so worried about! That's another way of looking at it.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

8 posted on 07/20/2008 6:44:16 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Lil'freeper; sauropod

Drill here. Drill now. Pay less.


9 posted on 07/20/2008 6:46:21 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: kellynla

Texas and Louisiana have some of the cleanest beaches anywhere. As for the tar, it washes up all over the Oregon beaches and there isn’t drilling for 1000 miles. The braindead lib hasn’t heard of Clean Drilling.
If you like $5/gal, Thank Congress in Nov.

Pray for W and Our Troops


10 posted on 07/20/2008 6:50:40 AM PDT by bray (Drill Congress!!)
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To: kellynla; All
"People here on the East Coast don't have a clue what it means to have offshore drilling," said Phillips, an environmental activist with the Assateague Coastal Trust. "It's dirty business. The water is dirty, and your beaches end up being dirty, and you're dealing with globules of oil and globs of tar. "I'm not even talking about oil spills. I'm talking about day-to-day operations."

As Bugs Bunny quipped, "Whatta Maroon!"

Oil in the Seas

11 posted on 07/20/2008 6:52:20 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old keyboard cowboy, ridin' the Trakball in to the Sunset...)
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To: kellynla
"It's definitely the wrong way to go," said Brad Heavner, state director of Environment Maryland. "You can't drill with zero impact."

You can't live with zero impact either, Brad, so why don't you reduce the impact to the environment by popping a cap in your own ass............

12 posted on 07/20/2008 6:55:05 AM PDT by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: kellynla

“I’m not even talking about oil spills. I’m talking about day-to-day operations.”

People with this attitude need to have all their oil related products cut off. See how they like living naked in a cold, dark cave


13 posted on 07/20/2008 6:58:21 AM PDT by Figment ("A communist is someone who reads Marx.An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx" R Reagan)
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To: kellynla
How about this for a response: BS!
14 posted on 07/20/2008 7:00:30 AM PDT by ReleaseTheHounds ("The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.")
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To: goldstategop

drilling our own oil is a step to self sufficency that the liberals do NOT want.


15 posted on 07/20/2008 7:00:51 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: kellynla
"It's dirty business. The water is dirty, and your beaches end up being dirty, and you're dealing with globules of oil and globs of tar.

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Heaven forbid this view might be spoiled by visions of offshore oil platforms! One wonders how many Baltimorons will stay home when gas hits $8.00. Hey Kathy Phillips, get another bucket of Thrashers fries and STFU.

16 posted on 07/20/2008 7:02:23 AM PDT by RoadKingSE (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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To: bray

I remember being in San Diego, and how dirty the beaches were - from sewage from Mexico.


17 posted on 07/20/2008 7:03:28 AM PDT by mathluv
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To: Figment

I remember the bumper sticker that read [LET THE BASTARDS FREEZE IN THE DARK]. It didn’t mean residents of oil producing states.


18 posted on 07/20/2008 7:07:56 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: kellynla
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The bilge dumping buffoon and Oldsmobile submarine captain Ted Kennedy is more responsible for dirtying Atlantic beaches and Chappaquidick shoreline than any oil drilling operation.

19 posted on 07/20/2008 7:09:50 AM PDT by RoadKingSE (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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To: kellynla

But it is OK for cities to dump sewage and trash a few miles off shore and have it float back?


20 posted on 07/20/2008 7:11:22 AM PDT by mountainlion (Concerned Conservative.)
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To: Ditter
I remember the bumper sticker that read [LET THE BASTARDS FREEZE IN THE DARK]. It didn’t mean residents of oil producing states.

I remember that from my early days. Wasn't that a response to the Yankee invasion of Houston during the '79-80 oil boom?

21 posted on 07/20/2008 7:11:30 AM PDT by Allegra (Ain't it grand? I'm back in the sand...)
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To: RoadKingSE

And even if it were true, they are saying ‘Let the third-world countries that now produce our oil live with the globules of tar on THEIR beaches’.


22 posted on 07/20/2008 7:17:39 AM PDT by squarebarb
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To: mathluv

Why should we expect the same people who got us into this crisis to get us out?? Time for a Boston Tea Party on the Dims.

Pray for W and Our Troops


23 posted on 07/20/2008 7:18:13 AM PDT by bray (Drill Congress!!)
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To: Allegra

I thought it was a response to just what we are seeing now, the east coast being unwilling to drill because they didn’t want the mess. Anyone who thinks that drilling for oil is still the messy business that it once was, is living in the past.


24 posted on 07/20/2008 7:22:55 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: kellynla
DelMarVa PING!!

"People here on the East Coast don't have a clue what it means to have offshore drilling," said Phillips, an environmental activist with the Assateague Coastal Trust. "It's dirty business. The water is dirty, and your beaches end up being dirty, and you're dealing with globules of oil and globs of tar.

Hey honey, how do you explain the current state of the beaches without offshore drilling?

25 posted on 07/20/2008 7:23:39 AM PDT by Gabz (You said WHAT?????????)
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To: backhoe

Excellnt graphic.
Thanks for posting.
I emailed the graphic to the author of this piece...for what good it will do. LOL


26 posted on 07/20/2008 7:26:17 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Gabz; Heatseeker; confederacy of dunces; Pyro7480; Dustbunny; Godebert; BykrBayb; WanderingOisin; ..

DUH -— I forgot to ping y’all to the thread in post 25!


27 posted on 07/20/2008 7:39:51 AM PDT by Gabz (You said WHAT?????????)
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To: kellynla

28 posted on 07/20/2008 7:42:37 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old keyboard cowboy, ridin' the Trakball in to the Sunset...)
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To: kellynla
I constantly see the local (Philly) news interviewing shore business owners about the affect of gas prices on their business.

Maybe when they go out of business they can at least claim pristine beaches for no one to look at.(I've seen the Jersey Shore, it ain't pristine.)

29 posted on 07/20/2008 7:43:09 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: mountainlion

“But it is OK for cities to dump sewage and trash a few miles off shore and have it float back?”

Excellent point!


30 posted on 07/20/2008 7:49:13 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla

Go for it, Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less !!!!


31 posted on 07/20/2008 8:07:44 AM PDT by Dustbunny (Freedom prospers when religion is vibrant and the rule of law under God is acknowledged. The Gipper)
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To: piytar

“It’s dirty business. The water is dirty, and your beaches end up being dirty, and you’re dealing with globules of oil and globs of tar.”

The man lies and uses scare tactics. Off the Texas and Louisiana coast, the sport fisherman will anchor near the oil platforms to fish. The platforms act as an artificial reef. The fish know where the living is easy and that is next to the platform.


32 posted on 07/20/2008 8:20:43 AM PDT by cpdiii (roughneck, oilfield trash and proud of it, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, iconoclast.)
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To: goldstategop
Elite liberals think everything we have comes to us easy

I don't know if the elites believe it, but their constituents are a cargo cult.

33 posted on 07/20/2008 8:28:29 AM PDT by Stentor
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To: kellynla
"The water is dirty, and your beaches end up being dirty, and you're dealing with globules of oil and globs of tar.

Funny, I didn't see any of that at Huntington Beach.

34 posted on 07/20/2008 8:40:28 AM PDT by cookcounty (Obama reach across the aisle? He's so far to the left, he'll need a roadmap to FIND the aisle.)
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To: kellynla
""It's dirty business. The water is dirty, and your beaches end up being dirty, and you're dealing with globules of oil and globs of tar.

NOT on US Coastlines, though it IS true of Lake Maracaibo, Venezuela, the Niger Dalta, and half the Persian Gulf, where the phony "Environmentalists" PREFER we get our oil from.

35 posted on 07/20/2008 8:43:43 AM PDT by cookcounty (Obama reach across the aisle? He's so far to the left, he'll need a roadmap to FIND the aisle.)
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To: RoadKingSE

Hah!


36 posted on 07/20/2008 8:47:23 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: cowboyway

These enviro nuts should be easy to be shown as quacks.
As we speak thousands of people enjoy the surf off the beaches of TX, LA, MS, AL, and Northwest FL. Go to Gulf Shores, AL, heart of the “Redneck Riviera” and you find clear water to swim in. Used to surf fish off Grand Isle,
LA where you can see the rigs from the beach. Never was scared of the water quality.
Yet, the Rotten Apple dumps sewage waste by the hopper barges off Long Island daily and it is a wellknown biomass
inching it’s way to shore. I guess that is “their”
idea of what is acceptable environmentally. No way I’m fishing or swimming there.
mrbill369


37 posted on 07/20/2008 8:53:50 AM PDT by deep trout
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To: kellynla; All

The author is ignorant of the facts and the science.

What is the largest source of petroleum (many of 100s of times over ANY other) “dumped” into our oceans????

It’s mother nature, from underwater fissures; not ocean-going vessels, not run-off from “oil spills” on land and not deep-sea drilling, pumping and transport operations.

Maybe the “environmental activists” can get on a crusade against mother nature for allowing the largest sources of oil “dumped” in the sea to exist in the first place.


38 posted on 07/20/2008 9:11:13 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: BallyBill
(I've seen the Jersey Shore, it ain't pristine.)

We lived in NJ for 6 1/2 years. I went to the shore exactly twice, each time with a group of friends who wanted to go. Ugliest beaches I've ever seen. The rocky beach in Kennebunkport was prettier than the Jersey Shore. Even the bit of beach I saw on Cape Cod was better looking!

Give me the Redneck Riviera ANY day!!

39 posted on 07/20/2008 10:13:48 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: deep trout
beaches of TX, LA, MS, AL, and Northwest FL. Go to Gulf Shores, AL, heart of the “Redneck Riviera” and you find clear water to swim in. Used to surf fish off Grand Isle, LA where you can see the rigs from the beach.

Off the coast of Louisiana lie some of the world's most unusual reefs. We're not talking about coral or shell reefs, but the steel-legged kind that the oil companies constructed throughout the waters of the Gulf of Mexico. No doubt the engineers of these structures gave little thought at the time of their development on how an important food chain would result due to these rig installations.

--snip--

40 posted on 07/20/2008 11:40:00 AM PDT by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: kellynla

I have always sort of enjoyed looking at those offshore structures when I am not on one. Drillships, semisubmersibles, jack-ups. Sikorsky helicopters, supply boats, pipeline vessels. Better than looking at nothing in the sea.


41 posted on 07/20/2008 5:26:37 PM PDT by oilfieldtrash
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To: kellynla; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; cindy-true-supporter; ...

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


42 posted on 07/21/2008 6:17:32 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drill Here! Drill Now! Pay Less! Sign the petition at http://www.americansolutions.com/)
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To: USNBandit

NO KIDDING!!!

Even the beaches at Cape Henlopen have black “tar” sand and pleanty of natural debris.

I’ve been to the gulf (last labor day weekend), along the Galveston shore, and thought the beaches were NO DIFFERENT than what we have here at home, save for some different types of beach grass, debris from storms, ect.

So, quite frankly, this dumb lady can go suck a lemon.


43 posted on 07/21/2008 6:33:35 AM PDT by fightinbluhen51 ("...If it moves, tax it, if it moves faster, regulate it, if it stops, subsidies it.")
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