Posted on 07/22/2008 12:19:38 PM PDT by Schnucki
The gay bishop of New Hampshire should resign in order to save the Anglican Communion, a senior African archbishop said today.
The call came from the Rt Rev Dr Daniel Deng, the archbishop of Sudan, and followed a strongly worded statement that accused the US Episcopal church of exposing Anglicans to ridicule and damaging their credibility in a multi-religious environment.
African bishops who signed the statement rejecting homosexual practice said they could not accept it as part of their church. They reiterated their opposition to developments in the US and Canada, where gay clergy are ordained and where same-sex relationships are blessed.
"This has not only caused deep divisions within the communion but it has seriously harmed the church's witness in Africa, opening the church to ridicule and damaging its credibility in a multi-religious environment."
The statement was endorsed by more than 150 bishops attending Lambeth, who represent 17 of the 38 provinces in the Anglican Communion.
Deng said: "He [Robinson] should resign for the sake of the church. The people who consecrated him should confess to the conference because they created an outcry in the whole Anglican world. God is not making a mistake creating Adam and Eve - he would have created two Adams if he wanted. If he was a real Christian he would resign."
There was already a breakdown in the Anglican Communion, with around 230 bishops boycotting the conference because of Robinson's election, he said.
"Can he not resign to allow the 300 bishops to come back to the house? The norms of the communion have been violated. We're asking them as Christians to keep the Anglican world intact."
(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...
Standing O for the Rt Rev Dr Daniel Deng.
“We’re asking them as Christians to keep the Anglican world intact.”
One problem.
They’re not.
Must be one of the Butt Brothers.
“There’s a gay bishop on the landing, Dad.”
Doesn’t quite have the same “ring” as the original...
"He complains too much." "You'd complain too if you sucked!"
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That would be getting off rather light. Back in the old days he could have been burnt at the stake.
Duuugh.. gayness is not about sacrifice and giving, its about getting.. and receiving..
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One prays that even he, in the words of the 1928 BCP, would "turn from his wickedness and live."
I have a soft spot for Mr. Morley, because he was organist and choirmaster at St. Giles-without-Cripplegate, where my gggg grandfather was baptized in 1795.
First, I agree with the sentiment entirely. When people complain about including a public or ecclesiastical official whose policies they dissaprove of in the Prayers for the People, I ask “But then who needs our prayers more?”
Secondly; thanks for the link. My choir has sung that ourselves. I’m the only tenor, so it’s tough because if I make a mistake there’s no one to cover.
Kudos for the Archbishop for speaking up, although some of his phrasing, like “Robinson is an error” is unfortunate and obviously will be twisted by the gay activists. People need to make it clear that it is “homosexual activity” that is the sin, and not the person’s existence. He should have been more careful to spell out that “making Robinson a bishop was an error”, although of course that is what the Archbishop meant.
Amen.
Africans in particular are so close the AIDS epidemic, and the African church is so anxious to help its people escape the virus, that African clergy cannot understand why white Westerners would endorse and condone and reward the very behaviours that have brought nothing but death and pestilence to families in Africa. In Africa, the church is where people are educated and Africans actually can appreciate the benefits of a Christian civilization—unlike spoiled white Westerners.
Our choirmaster doubles on tenor from the organ bench . . . (he IS that good!)
Can't you get a contralto to sing with you? I'm a deep contralto -- from about a C or C# in the bass clef up to an G# or A above the treble clef, so tenor is well within my range. And it ought to be in the range of any true alto.
Don't you love the way the alto and tenor lines clash on "Father, behold my painful smart" - right on "painful"? Talk about marriage of tune and text!
Yeah, I did note that! It took me a while to ensure that I stayed on key as I kept wanting to shift to resolve it. It’s got to be a deliberate reference to the text, I figure.
My diocese, the Diocese of Chicago, recently installed a new Bishop. The Diocese put out a call for choir members to form up a choir for it and distributed the music beforehand. About 150 people showed up. There were 20 tenors. We were all standing around marvelling and someone asked how many of us were the only tenors in our choir. Half of us put our hands up.
As far as getting a contralto, we are a small parish and just about everyone who can sing is in the choir already. We did have one once, and she did double up on tenor once in a while, but her husband got sick and they ended up moving away. We still hear from her, but she’s too far away and has too many demands on her time to sing with us on Sunday.
I cover from A to (on a good day) a’ or A2 to A4 (A below C below middle C to A above middle C).
Our choirmaster says it's like a touch of chili pepper in a dish . . . just to perk things up a little (and keep the singers on their toes).
We AREN'T a small parish -- but it's hard to get Catholics to sing, whether in the congregation or in the choir! In an Episcopal parish the size of this one, we would easily have 45-50 people in the choir and the choirmaster would be holding auditions to keep the number down to that.
I think there's a book on Why Catholics Don't Sing that basically blames the Irish non-musical tradition for the problem.
We are working on it -- two new faculty members from the school associated with our parish have joined the choir, one is the new music teacher over there. Do you have a school you can poach from?
No school. We’ve got about 80 parishioners on the books, and we have 8 people in the choir. We are a small church physically as well as logistically, although our church (that can hold about 160 worshippers) sits on 5 acres of prime real estate in the Chicago suburbs. I’d say having 10% of our parishioners in the choir is probably a high figure.
Our choirmaster (and organist) is an adjunct professor of music at Roosevelt University in downtown Chicago, does vocal coaching for professional singers and has been music director for shows at the downtown theaters. He’s young (about 26) and his father is an Episcopal priest. He sees us as a ministry as well as a job, and we are his only source of health insurance (I was floored when I found that he wasn’t getting it through the university). For Holy Week and Christmas he brings in a ringer or two from the people that he either coaches or that he went to school with. They are always wonderful singers.
Ignore the awful panning by the cameraman (I had to look away; couldn't watch; he should be slapped.)
They really do work awfully hard to bring up the musical standard!
I wish we had ten percent participation! I think in a larger parish there's a larger proportion of folks who just go with the flow.
That’s true. We get people in who have left the RCC for various reasons (usually they’re divorced) and one big difference for them is that you don’t just show up, sit in the back and then leave unnoticed. In a parish our size you don’t get lost, you become part of it.
In a small parish anywhere it’s hard to go un-noticed!
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