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U.S. says all six aboard B-52 in Guam crash dead
Reuters ^ | 23 July 2008 | Raju Gopalakrishnan

Posted on 07/23/2008 5:03:05 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham

All six crew members aboard a U.S. B-52 bomber that crashed into the Pacific Ocean off Guam earlier this week are dead, the U.S. Air Force said on Wednesday.

The plane crashed on Monday, while on its way to participate in a flyover to mark a Liberation Day parade in Guam, a U.S. territory.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: aerospace; b42; guam; planecrash; usaf

1 posted on 07/23/2008 5:03:05 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: A.A. Cunningham

So Sad

Salute to the fallen


2 posted on 07/23/2008 5:05:09 AM PDT by valkyry1
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To: A.A. Cunningham

With no idea as to cause, may I suggest that 50 year old airframes need more rigorous pre-flight inspections.


3 posted on 07/23/2008 5:07:35 AM PDT by G Larry (I'm investing in "Pitchfork Futures"!!)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
The BUFF is a hard aircraft to get out of. Very old egress technology.

Salute.

4 posted on 07/23/2008 5:08:42 AM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (If given a choice between a POW and a POS, I'll take the POW.)
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To: Fundamentally Fair
The BUFF is a hard aircraft to get out of. Very old egress technology.

It's hard if you're not in an ejection seat. But the seats work pretty well, although they're not zero-zero and the gas routing up to the hatch and back down to the seat is kind of Rube Goldberg.

If all six guys in seats were killed either they flew into something unaware or there was a massive failure; a wing came off at low altitude or a fuel tank exploded, something like that. Odds are it was crew error, it almost always is.

5 posted on 07/23/2008 5:19:27 AM PDT by Grut
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To: A.A. Cunningham
Requiem æternam dona eis, Domine,
et lux perpetua luceat eis.
Te decet hymnus Deus, in Sion,
et tibi reddetur votum in Ierusalem.
Exaudi orationem meam;
ad te omnis caro veniet.

Kyrie eleison;
Christe eleison;
Kyrie eleison

6 posted on 07/23/2008 5:23:14 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

so sad, prayers are with the families of these men & women. was stationed on guam and watched the b-52’s fly over every day. they are awesome to watch.


7 posted on 07/23/2008 5:48:53 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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To: Squantos

ping


8 posted on 07/23/2008 5:50:06 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: A.A. Cunningham; Aeronaut

I hope the flyover wasn’t being used as an excuse for hot dogging the Buff. Somebody should post that video of the B-52 wing over that crashed at a USAF air show....


9 posted on 07/23/2008 5:51:39 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee

10 posted on 07/23/2008 6:18:17 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Grut
But the seats work pretty well

Have you ever ejected from a BUFF? My husband was a Radar Nav in B-52's and the joke for the 'downstairs guys' was they needed to hold their O Club cards over their heads as they pulled the arming handle so that when they were dug out of the ground the rescue crews would know whose body they had. The Nav team had no illusions about a safe egress.

11 posted on 07/23/2008 6:25:22 AM PDT by Vor Lady (Diplomacy without arms is like music without instruments. Alexander the Great)
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To: Travis McGee
The case of Bud Holland and Czar 52.

Video of The Crash of Czar 52 at Fairchild AFB, WA, in 1994

12 posted on 07/23/2008 7:07:16 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: G Larry
may I suggest that 50 year old airframes need more rigorous pre-flight inspections.

I suggest they be replaced with new planes. I wouldn't rely on a 50 year old car, much less a 50 year old plane.

13 posted on 07/23/2008 7:17:23 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: Travis McGee

I got an incentive flight on a B-52 when I was stationed at Kincheloe AFB in the UP of Michigan. I rod on that jump seat on the hatch. Scary ride, but damn fun !

Even back then the egress was iffy at best......prayers up for these aviators and their friends and family. These things we do so others can be free......

Stay safe !


14 posted on 07/23/2008 2:00:02 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Vor Lady
Have you ever ejected from a BUFF? My husband was a Radar Nav in B-52s....

Mea culpa! I was an EW so I was thinking of the upward-ejecting seats. Navs and RNs definitely had the short end... especially the RN since he was supposed to wait and report when all the spare crewmembers had bailed out of the hole the Nav left behind.

And Lord, were those seats uncomfortable after about the seventh hour! Your butt would suddenly feel like it was on fire and there was no way to ease it - and even the short training missions ran twelve or thirteen hours.

15 posted on 07/23/2008 4:21:19 PM PDT by Grut
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To: G Larry

If it was a new build H and not a converted G then it’s not quite 50 years old and during that time much of that plane has been replaced/rebuilt.


16 posted on 07/23/2008 7:08:17 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: A.A. Cunningham

If I’m left seat in a 20 year old craft, I’m spending extra time on my pre-flight inspection.

To the point that I’ll likely enlist crew participation in my own longer checklist.

Lot’s of control surface and long runs of wire and plumbing.


17 posted on 07/23/2008 8:02:49 PM PDT by G Larry (I'm investing in "Pitchfork Futures"!!)
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