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The Myth of a Toss-Up Election
Rasmussen Reports ^ | Friday, July 25, 2008 | Alan Abramowitz, Thomas E. Mann, and Larry J. Sabato

Posted on 07/25/2008 5:42:18 AM PDT by TADSLOS

"Too close to call." "Within the margin of error." "A statistical dead heat." If you've been following news coverage of the 2008 presidential election, you're probably familiar with these phrases. Media commentary on the presidential horserace, reflecting the results of a series of new national polls, has strained to make a case for a hotly contested election that is essentially up for grabs.

Signs of Barack Obama's weaknesses allegedly abound. The huge generic Democratic Party advantage is not reflected in the McCain-Obama pairings in national polls. Why, according to the constant refrain, hasn't Obama put this election away? A large number of Clinton supporters in the primaries refuse to commit to Obama. White working class and senior voters tilt decidedly to McCain. Racial resentment limits Obama's support among these two critical voting blocs. Enthusiasm among young voters and African-Americans, two groups strongly attracted to Obama, is waning. Blah, blah, blah.

While no election outcome is guaranteed and McCain's prospects could improve over the next three and a half months, virtually all of the evidence that we have reviewed--historical patterns, structural features of this election cycle, and national and state polls conducted over the last several months--point to a comfortable Obama/Democratic party victory in November. Trumpeting this race as a toss-up, almost certain to produce another nail-biter finish, distorts the evidence and does a disservice to readers and viewers who rely upon such punditry. Again, maybe conditions will change in McCain's favor, and if they do, they should also be accurately described by the media. But current data do not justify calling this election a toss-up.

Consider the following.

Except for a few days when the Gallup and Rasmussen tracking polls showed a tie, Barack Obama has led John McCain in every national poll in the past two months. Obama's average margin has consistently been in the 4-6 point range during this time. By contrast, the polls in 2000 and 2004 showed much more variation over time. State polling results have also consistently given Obama the advantage. According to realclearpolitics.com, Obama is currently leading in 26 states and the District of Columbia with a total of 322 electoral votes; McCain is currently leading in 24 states with a total of 216 electoral votes. Obama is leading in every state carried by John Kerry in 2004 along with six states carried by George Bush: Iowa, New Mexico, Ohio, Indiana, Nevada and Colorado. A seventh Bush state, Virginia, is tied.

Obama is leading in 11 of the 12 swing states that were decided by a margin of five points or less in 2004 including five of the six that were carried by George Bush. And while Obama has a comfortable lead in every state that John Kerry won by a margin of more than five points in 2004, McCain is in a difficult battle in a number of states that Bush carried by a margin of more than five points including such solidly red states as Indiana, Montana, North Dakota, Virginia, and North Carolina.

And remember these June and July polls may well understate Obama's eventual margin. Ronald Reagan did not capitalize on the huge structural advantage Republicans enjoyed in 1980 until after the party conventions and presidential debate. It took a while and a sufficient level of comfort with the challenger for anti-Carter votes to translate into support for Reagan. If Obama's performance over the last eighteen months is any guide, a similar pattern could unfold in 2008.

Aside from the horserace results, there is evidence of a growing Democratic party advantage in the electorate. A recent analysis by Rhodes Cook of voter registration data in 29 states and the District of Columbia that permit registration by party shows that since November of 2004, Democratic registration has increased by almost 700,000 while Republican registration has declined by almost one million.

Democrats now enjoy a substantial lead over Republicans in voter identification. According to the Gallup Poll, the two parties have gone from near parity four years ago to a 12 point Democratic advantage in the first half of 2008. And polling data continue to show that Democrats are more satisfied with their party's nominee than Republicans voters and more highly motivated to vote. While Republicans normally benefit from higher turnout among their supporters, that may not be the case this year.

In order to defeat Barack Obama, John McCain will have to convince a lot of currently disgruntled Republicans to turn out and vote for him. Yet mobilizing the Republican base, a strategy employed successfully by Karl Rove in 2002 and 2004, won't be enough for McCain to win in 2008. He'll also have to convince a majority of independents and a substantial number of Democrats to vote for him. That's a task that proved too difficult even for Rove in the 2006 midterm election and it may be still more difficult in 2008. That's because since 2006 the political environment has gone from bad to worse for Republicans.

It is no exaggeration to say that the political environment this year is one of the worst for a party in the White House in the past sixty years. You have to go all the way back to 1952 to find an election involving the combination of an unpopular president, an unpopular war, and an economy teetering on the brink of recession. 1952 was also the last time the party in power wasn't represented by either the incumbent president or the incumbent vice-president. But the fact that Democrat Harry Truman wasn't on the ballot didn't stop Republican Dwight Eisenhower from inflicting a crushing defeat on Truman's would-be successor, Adlai Stevenson.

Barack Obama is not a national hero like Dwight Eisenhower, and George Bush is no Harry Truman. But if history is any guide, and absent a dramatic change in election fundamentals or an utter collapse of the Obama candidacy, John McCain is likely to suffer the same fate as Adlai Stevenson.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008polls; adlaistevenson; defeat; electionpresident; landslide; mccain; mccainlist; mccaintruthfile; obama; rasmussen; tossups
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1 posted on 07/25/2008 5:42:19 AM PDT by TADSLOS
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To: TADSLOS

In their dreams......


2 posted on 07/25/2008 5:46:29 AM PDT by basil (Support the Second Amendment-buy another gun today!)
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To: TADSLOS
Signs of Barack Obama's weaknesses allegedly abound.

Allegedly?!? I stopped reading after that sentence.

3 posted on 07/25/2008 5:46:36 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: TADSLOS

what if they gave an election and nobody voted???


4 posted on 07/25/2008 5:47:17 AM PDT by kcm.org (Conservatives bashing Sen. McCain has Ronald Reagan spinning in his grave!!!)
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To: tsmith130

Larry J. Sabato is an asshat.


5 posted on 07/25/2008 5:48:47 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: TADSLOS
an utter collapse of the Obama candidacy

Comming soon.

6 posted on 07/25/2008 5:49:20 AM PDT by tbpiper (NObama '08 - Unfit in any color)
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To: TADSLOS

Well, there you have it. I’m just going to take my ball and go home.


7 posted on 07/25/2008 5:49:20 AM PDT by KansasGirl (Obama is just creepy.)
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To: TADSLOS
In order to defeat Barack Obama, John McCain will have to convince a lot of currently disgruntled Republicans to turn out and vote for him

Barak Hussein Obama will do that for him.

Obama actually lost the popular vote for the Dem nomination to Hillary.

Obamas negatives: Inexperience

Unwillingness to be challenged and failure to respond properly when challenged.

Muslim youth

Muslim name

America's enemies major enemies have similar Muslim names.

Same Dem policies that have only elected one Dem by popular vote since LBJ.

8 posted on 07/25/2008 5:51:26 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: normy

..well he’ll have to do more than stand in front of cheese looking confused.


9 posted on 07/25/2008 5:52:36 AM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: TADSLOS

No doubt that this represents the conventional wisdom among the chattering class. But, I wonder if they are cherry-picking their historic examples. No mention here of Dukakis and his wide lead that mysteriously collapsed. Ditto Mondale and Carter, who nonetheless managed to eke out a win. I think that history tells us that far left candidates generate much more enthusiasm during the campaign than the are able to realize on election day.

On the other hand, McCain certainly looks alot like Bob Dole and we all now how that turned out. So, is Barack Obama another Bill Clinton, or is he a Michael Dukakis. Lately, he’s been acting more like a Dukakis.


10 posted on 07/25/2008 5:53:16 AM PDT by centurion316 (Democrats - Supporting Al Qaida Worldwide)
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To: kcm.org

In my opinion, that’s the most important question of this election. If Obama wins without a mandate, what does that say about the country as a whole? Or does it say more about the loss of a vibrant base of the Repub party? If Obama wins, many will get “change” they won’t like. Would it matter to Obama and his administration and his supporters in Congress that a low turnout might signal a significant falling away of support for the Government as an institution?


11 posted on 07/25/2008 5:53:43 AM PDT by glide625
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To: norraad

Maybe but maybe not. Do you vote for the guy that is confused by cheese or the guy who will cut your head off.


12 posted on 07/25/2008 5:55:18 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: TADSLOS
Liberals trying to convince themselves the polls are lying and Obama is going to win by a landslide. They live in their own little universe!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

13 posted on 07/25/2008 5:55:28 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: TADSLOS
Here we have Democrat pollsters attempting to demoralize the opposition. The truth is that they are scared to death. They have backed a candidate that many people are just learning about for themselves (not through the fawning eyes and drooling lips of the media) and they are not all that impressed with what they see.

The Democrats have selected a candidate who is not only the most liberal Senator in America, but one who is vain, shallow, pompous, and inexperienced. The media may swoon over Elvis Obama's European Tour, but many Americans do not appreciate having a presumptuous neophyte apologize to foreigners for America's not being perfect.

14 posted on 07/25/2008 5:56:33 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves.)
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To: normy
These are all good points. However, to date, the GOP has done almost nothing with any of them. The GOP continues to play nice guy, thinking that's going to win votes in the long run. As Keynes said: “We're all dead in the long run.”

It's time to take off the gloves, start kicking a$$ and taking names. Point to Queen Pelosi and Jester Reid and tell the American public they are blocking relief at the pump. Until I see some guts coming from the GOP, they'll not get a dime from me.

15 posted on 07/25/2008 5:57:21 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: normy
This is all you need to know about Larry J Sabato:

"He was classmates at the University of Virginia with former Senator George Allen. Sabato was the subject of controversy in 2006 when he appeared on MSNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews and said that he knew Allen had used the word nigger, but later admitted to the Hampton Roads Daily Press that he had never heard Allen say the word himself."
16 posted on 07/25/2008 5:57:34 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: TADSLOS

John McCain now leads Obama in Ohio by 6 points. This is a bit of a turn-around. People are seeing things in Obama now that they didn’t know about before.

As the word gets out, they stop supporting Obama.

If McCain wins Ohio, he will most likely win the election. If he wins Ohio and Michigan, he will certainly win the election.


17 posted on 07/25/2008 5:59:09 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: andy58-in-nh
Agreed. If Obama is such a great candidate, how come he can't capitalize on his media support to get a big bounce in the polls?

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

18 posted on 07/25/2008 6:00:08 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

In every election that I can remember paying attention to,

the conservative presidential candidate was far behind in the months leading up to the election.

The actual results on election day were always more favorable to the conservative than the polls indicated.


19 posted on 07/25/2008 6:00:17 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: centurion316
No mention here of Dukakis and his wide lead that mysteriously collapsed. Ditto Mondale and Carter, who nonetheless managed to eke out a win.

Interesting examples... all from the "media age." It reinforces my perception of these early polls as a means to demoralize the enemy. When the election gets closer, they have to adjust closer to reality to maintain credibility.

20 posted on 07/25/2008 6:00:46 AM PDT by pgyanke (Public "servants" have decided it's their job to use the public's money to fight the public)
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To: xzins

The dems meet in Denver in a month. Will they drop Obama?


21 posted on 07/25/2008 6:00:49 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: TADSLOS

good gravy,

few people are as

self-effacing as

harry truman

was.


22 posted on 07/25/2008 6:02:49 AM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: xzins

How long has it been since Ohio voted for the loser? A long time I think.


23 posted on 07/25/2008 6:02:54 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: econjack; Perdogg
I emailed McCain and told his campaign that if they started pushing for drilling I would donate, which I have.

Right now Obama is killing himself. The more he talks the less people like him. He is showing his inexperience every day. The polls are showing him slipping constantly. He is a phony.

After the convention we will have 2 1/2 months to beat him up. McCain will crush him in debates and he will lose bigtime.

The media is working awfully hard so soon to make sure we don't look behind the curtain. I smell desperation in the media that people aren't buying it. aren't buy

24 posted on 07/25/2008 6:04:11 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: glide625

Excellent questions. We’re about to find out.


25 posted on 07/25/2008 6:04:38 AM PDT by TADSLOS (GOP legislators are now free to adapt the McCain Campaign Strategy of Liberalism for a vote)
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To: Perdogg
Then it was discovered that Larry also worked for the Webb campaign and did not REPORT this fact to Fox News and others networks as he continued to trash Sen Allen in all his so called political analysis . This Dem party activist is real scum. Back In the summer of 2004, Larry predicted that Kerry would WIN easily and No Republican President could win in such a hostile climate .
26 posted on 07/25/2008 6:05:07 AM PDT by ncalburt
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To: normy
Maybe but maybe not. Do you vote for the guy that is confused by cheese or the guy who will cut your head off.

With all the pitch forks comin' in to Glenn Beck, I figure we got a "histora'de'reparta'" of the French Revolution coming, viva la Fraunce!

27 posted on 07/25/2008 6:06:09 AM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: goldstategop
Agreed. If Obama is such a great candidate, how come he can't capitalize on his media support to get a big bounce in the polls?

Apparently, we don't appreciate his wisdom and genius as much as the Media do. But then, what do you expect from a bunch of angry typical white people clinging to their guns and God, when the real Saviour walks among us? /s

28 posted on 07/25/2008 6:06:37 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves.)
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To: TADSLOS

Ask President Dukakis about those early leads in the polls...


29 posted on 07/25/2008 6:08:44 AM PDT by jgilbert63
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To: Perdogg

They can’t drop him.

UNLESS....there’s a legal problem with his candidacy or some great scandal that comes out.


30 posted on 07/25/2008 6:09:09 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: TADSLOS

“Ronald Reagan did not capitalize on the huge structural advantage Republicans enjoyed in 1980 until after the party conventions and presidential debate. It took a while and a sufficient level of comfort with the challenger for anti-Carter votes to translate into support for Reagan. If Obama’s performance over the last eighteen months is any guide, a similar pattern could unfold in 2008.”

Or it could go the other way because, unlike Reagan, the more they see of him the less they like him.


31 posted on 07/25/2008 6:10:27 AM PDT by Nipfan
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To: Perdogg
I think Larry Sabato bet John Kerry would win in 2004. He turned out to be half right. Kerry was a weak candidate but he made it a very close race. Today, the CW is this is a going to be a big Democratic year and McCain doesn't stand a chance. Its all over, folks. Cause Sabato and colleagues have said so!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

32 posted on 07/25/2008 6:10:36 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: normy
I smell you peddling the Obama media talking points . Just like the left you promote the BIG Lie the Nazis Propagandist used to get people to give and surrender . Its over, you will never win , blah blah blah, . In fact the polls show these two tied in many cases so your wrong.
I find it interesting you want Repub to give up and to not vote and to not work hard to stop Obama .
33 posted on 07/25/2008 6:10:37 AM PDT by ncalburt
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To: originalbuckeye

1960.


34 posted on 07/25/2008 6:10:47 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: TADSLOS

Stupid tools! Try the “resistance is futile” crap on someone else.


35 posted on 07/25/2008 6:11:17 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Nipfan
Well Larry - if Obama is the Dems' dream candidate, how come he never managed to decisively put Hillary away til June?

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

36 posted on 07/25/2008 6:12:11 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: TADSLOS
The leader in June polls has been defeated in the past 6 elections 5 times to 1. By similar margins the republicans gained votes between July and the election day. also by similar margins the party in power gained votes. In Presidential elections the party in power usually gains votes betweent he sumer and election day. By all historical yardsticks Obama is already defeated. also the only time the Dem's have won is by running a centrist from south of the Mason Dixon line. This person needs to go back and read his history.
37 posted on 07/25/2008 6:14:11 AM PDT by bilhosty
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To: jgilbert63

Polls are a joke. If one tries to gleen anything at all from them, start your analysis AFTER adding 8 points to the republican.


38 posted on 07/25/2008 6:14:50 AM PDT by T. Jefferson
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To: TADSLOS

When he loses, you KNOW they’ll scream RACISM!

“They wouldn’t vote for the black guy!”


39 posted on 07/25/2008 6:15:38 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: TADSLOS
Barack Obama is not a national hero like Dwight Eisenhower, and George Bush is no Harry Truman. But if history is any guide, and absent a dramatic change in election fundamentals or an utter collapse of the Obama candidacy, John McCain is likely to suffer the same fate as Adlai Stevenson.

Let's not discount the 'utter collapes of the Obama candidacy' possibility. There are several months left before the election and a lot can happen, especially to a candidate as inexperienced at national campaigns as Obama is. I'm still sticking to my prediction that whoever wins in November will do so with fewer than 300 electoral votes.

40 posted on 07/25/2008 6:16:15 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: normy
I hope you're right, but I'm still worried. There's a new 800 pound gorilla in the room and that's the young (often misinformed) voter. I've had the chance to talk with a lot of young college students and most are not capable of reasoned debate. They are, for the most part, clueless on the issues. They are swayed by his rhetoric, but fail to listen to his message. When you point to BO's speeches and list his inexperience, in essence what you get is: "That may be, but I don't believe it." How can you hope to educate people who are that stupid? I'm worried because BO is a Marxist and too many voters don't see that.

My own daughter-in-law, who just graduated from law school offered this argument when I complained about BO's inexperience: "Well, how much experience did Neil Armstrong have when he walked on the moon?" Jesus! That's a reasoned argument from someone with 4 years of college and 3 years of law school?! When I pointed out that he was a navy test pilot with 20 years of flight experience, plus another 7 years of astronaut training, and was as experienced as we could make him, her reply: "Oh. Well, he can learn on the job." Oh great...the office of the President of the United States is now an on-the-job training platform.

I am very afraid, but I've heard New Zealand's a pretty nice place to live...

41 posted on 07/25/2008 6:17:04 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: originalbuckeye

Ohio did not go with JFK or with FDR in his final campaign.

In other words, they have gone with the winners since 1964.

What’s most significant to me in the numbers is that Obama has a 47% unfavorable rating (highly or somewhat) in Ohio.

Convincing and undecided is one thing. Convincing an unfavorable is entirely different.


42 posted on 07/25/2008 6:17:34 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: TADSLOS

The American people know only to vote for Oprah’s Obama to show their disgust with the GWB-Cheney administration. They are incapable of doing anything else.


43 posted on 07/25/2008 6:18:43 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: Perdogg

Yep. Thanks. Sabato is not to be trusted. He is a university professor who works to sell himself as a bipartisan observer of the media and politics. The reality is that he is a smooth yet ardently partisan liberal professor.


44 posted on 07/25/2008 6:19:08 AM PDT by Obadiah (I remember when the climate never changed, then Bush stole the election.)
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To: Perdogg

I think that is a charitable description of Sabado.


45 posted on 07/25/2008 6:19:10 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: normy
McCain will crush him in debates and he will lose bigtime.

It will be like pulling teeth to get hime to agree to debate McCain.

46 posted on 07/25/2008 6:19:51 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: TADSLOS

“historical patterns, structural features of this election cycle, and national and state polls conducted over the last several months—point to a comfortable Obama/Democratic party victory in November”

Undeniably true in a normal election year. This year, maybe or maybe not. The guest editorial writers start with the assumption it IS a normal election year. For that though you need a normal candidate.

Given all the above one would expect a commanding Obama lead now, beyond even the appearance that McCain was still in the race. Hillary would most likely be in that position by now, but for Obama that isn’t occurring.

Up to now Obama isn’t even matching Dukakis. Dukakis or Kerry or Gore were at least known quantities. A dem win relies on people gambling on a total unknown with no record at all. Perhaps they will, but the evidence so far is underwhelming.

Not whistling in the dark here, I fully understand the cycle of politics places this as a dem year. However I am unconvinced Obama is the man who can take best advantage of this. I simply think the editorialists are omitting some important factors, taking a shortcut to their conclusions.


47 posted on 07/25/2008 6:19:55 AM PDT by tlb
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To: TADSLOS

The next time Sabado correctly calls a national election will the first.


48 posted on 07/25/2008 6:21:22 AM PDT by AU72
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To: xzins
John McCain now leads Obama in Ohio by 6 points.

This is why I think Obamalamadingdong is going to lose this fall. The media darling, even with all the lapdogs in his corner, is barely ahead of, dead even with, or trailing McCain in the polls. The media, with all its huff and puff just can't keep covering for Baracaca's complete ineptness, and the people are noticing.

I have had co-workers, who were excited that a BHO could be elected several months ago, now tell me they are absolutely disgusted with the lack of quality candidates we have this go-around. Things are turning.

49 posted on 07/25/2008 6:23:37 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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To: TADSLOS
But the fact that Democrat Harry Truman wasn't on the ballot didn't stop Republican Dwight Eisenhower from inflicting a crushing defeat on Truman's would-be successor, Adlai Stevenson.

Which is why the 1952 election is a poor analog for this year's race; Jesus Christ Himself could not have beaten Eisenhower in 1952, and Stevenson was an exceptionally weak candidate in favor only with the Left.

I do not imply that McCain will win, or that Obama is not a strong candidate, just that the jokers writing this article should know better.

50 posted on 07/25/2008 6:24:00 AM PDT by TonyInOhio (Barry has a case of premature inauguration.)
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