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Obama will persecute evangelicals
renewamerica.us ^ | July 1, 2008 | Grant Swank

Posted on 07/04/2008 6:27:02 PM PDT by johnstown

B. Hussein Obama has it in for America’s evangelicals. That is evident in his anathema of evangelical leader Dr. James Dobson of Focus on the Family.

Evangelicals stand at the direct opposite of B. Hussein’s creed. He is a moral relativist. That is, for B. Hussein there are no moral absolutes.

To state it in other terms, B. Hussein defines morality by “situation ethics.” That twosome was quite popular among liberals a few years ago; the term has since faded out as a frequency. However, it means that the specific situation governs the ethic of that situation.

For example, if a female concludes that her situation would be better served by slaying her womb infant, then her ethic is pure in having an abortion. There is no biblical absolute standing in her way.

Consequently, B. Hussein who believes in situation ethics supports killing womb babies. He is a prime celebrity among abortion enthusiasts. He goes so far as to aggressively support post-birth abortion.

Further, B. Hussein is a typical theological liberal and is encouraged nationwide by that religious block. There are denominations based on theological liberalism, the latter in opposition to biblical theology.

Such mainline Protestant denominations include the United Church of Christ (Congregational), Unitarian-Universalist Society and Episcopal Church. There are large segments within Roman Catholicism that are like unto the Protestant theological liberal base.

Evangelicals on the other hand uphold the biblical ethic as set by the Almighty God. Therefore, there is no situation ethics allowance. There is no moral relativism. There is no theological liberalism tolerated.

Evangelicals are theological conservatives, absolutists, adhering only to the Scriptures for their moral definitions.

B. Hussein has belonged to the theologically and politically liberal United Church of Christ, the latter’s administration now assertively supporting him in every move he makes.

In addition, B. Hussein was reared by a mother who believed all-religions-are-fine. That is what B. Hussein believes at the forefront of his so-called “faith.”

While he claims daily to pray to Jesus, it is the Muslim prophet Jesus who can fit quite conveniently alongside Buddha, Confucius and so forth. B. Hussein’s Jesus is not the incarnate deity of the Bible. If he were, B. Hussein would not transgress against Jesus’ moral teachings.

While he claims to be “Christian,” such is defined in the theologically liberal parlance, not the evangelical, biblical definition.

Add to this that he has Islamic trappings all over his history and mindset. In his book, “Audacity of Hope,” B. Hussein states: “I will stand with the Muslims. . .”

Yes, that is written in the context of Muslims coming under various injustices in society.

Therefore, the reality is that if elected to the Oval Office, Muslims within B. Hussein’s first week will claim injustices of some sort. With whom then will the new President align himself? He’s already told us. It is with the Muslims.

If Muslims go so far as to claim injustices leveled against them by evangelicals, evangelicals will be B. Hussein’s immediate enemy while Muslims will be his obvious friend.

Naturally Muslims know that sentence is in his book.

It is underlined in their consciousness. They will hold B. Hussein to it. If he moves away from that declaration, all hell will break loose. B. Hussein knows that. Even while courting evangelicals, B. Hussein knows his Islamic allegiance as stated on paper in his book.

In addition, B. Hussein’s father was Muslim and stepfather was a practicing Muslim.

Moreover, B. Hussein has stated in “Dreams of my Father” that “I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.”

And further in that same book: “I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race.” This is a confession to his being anti-white and pro-blackism, the latter preached by Jeremiah Wright.

While being pro-blackism, B. Hussein adds to that his pro-Muslim persona.

Now B. Hussein proclaims that he will expand George W. Bush’s faith-based programming. And what is that move? It is a move to fool evangelicals in particular for they have much to lose if that program is deleted.

And why did B. Husseni conduct outdoor gospel concerts in the South? To fool evangelicals.

And why does B. Hussein meet cordially with America’s evangelical leaders? To fool them.

And he in fact did fool some of them. Take for instance Rick Warran of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, California. Warren had B. Hussein speak from his so-called evangelical platform on a Lord’s Day.

Wait until B. Hussein gets into the White House. These evangelicals will wish they had stayed true to the traditional evangelical definition of being only biblically aligned, not politically opportunistic.

If B. Hussein gets onto Pennsylvania Avenue, it will be one hell of a nation for evangelicals, for certain.

Read “B. HUSSEIN OBAMA: 'I will stand with the Muslims. . .” at http://www.conservativecrusader.com/articles/b-hussein-obama-i-will-stand-with-the-muslims

Read “CAL THOMAS: OBAMA ‘FALSE PROPHET” at http://jgrantswankjr.blogspot.com/2008/06/cal-thomas-obama-false-prophet.html


TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; Religion & Politics; Theology
KEYWORDS: 2008; evangelicals; issues; obama; persecution; religiousleft

1 posted on 07/04/2008 6:27:03 PM PDT by johnstown
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To: johnstown; Religion Moderator
Your thread needs to cite it's source material: a 7/1/2008 J. Grant Swank column. It also needs to have the title corrected from "Muslim B. Hussein Will Persecute Evangelicals" to "Obama will persecute evangelicals".

http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/swank/080701

2 posted on 07/04/2008 6:36:33 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" -- Galatians 4:16)
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To: Alex Murphy

Noted and thanks.


3 posted on 07/04/2008 6:39:31 PM PDT by johnstown
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To: Alex Murphy

Yep.


4 posted on 07/04/2008 6:39:35 PM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Fixed, thanks and Happy Independence Day!


5 posted on 07/04/2008 6:40:34 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: johnstown

I would think that Jews and Catholics would come before or along with the evangelicals.


6 posted on 07/04/2008 6:41:06 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Admin Moderator

Much ‘preciation.

:-)


7 posted on 07/04/2008 6:41:10 PM PDT by johnstown
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To: johnstown

;)


8 posted on 07/04/2008 6:42:15 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: johnstown

AND Michelle has her own list of those to persecute...should we give her the chance.


9 posted on 07/04/2008 6:44:38 PM PDT by bannie
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To: Salvation

No doubt you are correct with “along with.”

It’s just that surveys now show so many Catholics who are denying the Vatican positions on such issues as abortion that these are endorsing Catholics.

Further, I don’t know of Obama aggressively opposing Jews on issues.

However, Obama has let it be known that he has no liking for evangelicals. That is quite understandable considering Obama’s theological liberalism and membership in one of the arch-theologically liberal Protestant denominations.

However, if Obama gets onto PA Avenue, it could be as you predicted, sadly.


10 posted on 07/04/2008 6:45:39 PM PDT by johnstown
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To: bannie

Michelle surely does have her own list.

And at least what is there in her list does coincide with husband’s for starters.


11 posted on 07/04/2008 6:47:08 PM PDT by johnstown
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To: Salvation

I suggest Franklin Graham’s book, THE NAME, which focuses on Islam.

“He’s (evangelical Franklin Graham) become the most outspoken and significant leader of a movement of Christian conservatives directly attacking Islam,” wrote Deborah Caldwell at http://www.beliefnet.com/story/111/story_11109_1.html

With Franklin Graham’s book as a resource, one can then see even more poignantly the contrast between Obama’s theology and evangelical theology, particularly as relating to Islam.


12 posted on 07/04/2008 7:05:29 PM PDT by johnstown
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To: johnstown

Are you also familiar with the miracle of Lepanto? Do a search for that name or I can send you the links through FReepmail.


13 posted on 07/04/2008 7:08:07 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

Thank you. Will do the search you recommend.


14 posted on 07/04/2008 7:09:47 PM PDT by johnstown
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To: Salvation

Have read about what you suggested and again am all the more confirmed that it is prayer that will overcome the enemy.

The Bible accents the power of prayer over and over. It is faith in the God of the Bible to overcome the enemy for as the Bible states: “The battle is the Lord’s.”

We so often forget that. To remember that is our peace and assurance.

Jesus, further, tells us to pray for our enemies. Consequently, Christians should all the more pray for Muslims to come into the Truth as Jesus claimed to the “Way, the Truth and the Life.”


15 posted on 07/04/2008 7:14:02 PM PDT by johnstown
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To: johnstown

Yes, prayer is the answer.

I forsee a future time when all citizens of the United States will be united in prayer to prevent such an attack as Lepanto.


16 posted on 07/04/2008 7:17:28 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

May it truly be so.

“The effectual, fervent prayer of the righteous avails much” per James 5:16.


17 posted on 07/04/2008 7:23:10 PM PDT by johnstown
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To: johnstown

Of course he’s a relativist. He is a relativist everywhere, except where his opinions are concerned - then he’s always right.

He is a marxist. He uses the Hegelian dialectic. He knows about the Alinsky method. He understands how to apply the Delphi Technique.


18 posted on 07/04/2008 8:36:35 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Why do you think the theme of his campaign is all about “change”?

The dialectic requires two opposing sides to ‘synthesize’ (ie compromise) to a new position somewhere in between the two opposites. When you use the Delphi Technique you (unbeknownst to the opposing sides) already know what direction you want them to go, and without them knowing, push things so that they go to the solution you want them to, but they think it just happened naturally.


19 posted on 07/04/2008 8:39:09 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: johnstown

ping


20 posted on 07/04/2008 9:57:57 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Delphi Technique.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Never heard of it until now.

I just finished reading about on Wikipedia.

Very interesting!

21 posted on 07/04/2008 10:05:20 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: wintertime

Lots of educator/administrators use this. They bring in ‘consultants’ to do study groups, they already know what the school district wants to do, and they pit the dupes who would go along with it against those who’d be against it. Then they basically demonize or make those objecting that their positions are idiotic and demean them. Later on when they go to implement the plan, they only take the people from the ‘go along’ group and put them on the panel overseeing the changes, and claim they have the community behind them.


22 posted on 07/04/2008 11:51:15 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Another “Ha Ah!” moment. This is why I read Free Republic.

I now know to look for this tactic at work.

23 posted on 07/05/2008 3:29:15 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: Salvation
"I would think that Jews and Catholics would come before or along with the evangelicals."

When Hitler attacked the Jews I was not a Jew, therefore I was not concerned. And when Hitler attacked the Catholics, I was not a Catholic, and therefore, I was not concerned. And when Hitler attacked the unions and the industrialists, I was not a member of the unions and I was not concerned. Then Hitler attacked me and the Protestant church — and there was nobody left to be concerned.

Pastor Martin Niemöller, in the Congressional Record, 14, October 1968

24 posted on 07/05/2008 4:00:19 AM PDT by DaveMSmith (If you know these things, you are blessed if you act upon them. John 13:17)
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To: Secret Agent Man

True


25 posted on 07/05/2008 5:19:15 AM PDT by johnstown
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To: DaveMSmith

Appropriate in any age, any place. Thanks.


26 posted on 07/05/2008 5:23:04 AM PDT by johnstown
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To: Secret Agent Man

Much appreciation for the explicit explanation. Very helpful.


27 posted on 07/05/2008 5:23:42 AM PDT by johnstown
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To: DaveMSmith; Salvation
When "asked in 1971 about the correct version of the quote, Niemöller
said he was not quite sure when he had said the famous words but,
if people insist upon citing them, he preferred this version:
"In Germany, they came first for the Communists,
And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist;

And then they came for the trade unionists,
And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist;

And then they came for the Jews,
And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew;

And then . . . they came for me . . .
And by that time there was no one left to speak up.
"

Pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984)

28 posted on 07/05/2008 6:57:32 AM PDT by XeniaSt (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: johnstown

BO is a muslim in “Christian” clothing. It’s absolutely astounding that, 7 short years after 9/11, we have never come closer to electing a muslim extremist to the highest office of our land.


29 posted on 07/05/2008 8:09:51 AM PDT by fwdude (If marriage can mean anything, then marriage means nothing.)
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To: fwdude

Yes yes yes.

He is a Muslim appearing as a Christian. He is no biblical Christian. He is a theological liberal who in no way lines up with the scriptural definition of a follower of Jesus Christ. He is a typical theological liberal.

In addition, he has Muslim written all over him. But the liberal press is protecting him so that the Republic will be prostituted with an Islamic in the White House. Is that crazy or what?

Even some so-called conservative websites will not post anything relating to Obama being a mask Muslim. They too join the applause for mob hysteria to drive onto PA Avenue the enemy of our democracy.

Read MUSLIM PRES OBAMA = CIVIL WAR at http://mosquewatch.blogspot.com/2008/07/muslim-pres-obama-civil-war.html

Read CHRIST POPULAR IN CHINA. CHRIST TOPPLES ALLAH? at http://mosquewatch.blogspot.com/2008/06/christ-popular-in-china-christ-topples.html


30 posted on 07/05/2008 8:26:17 AM PDT by johnstown
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